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06:36:42 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Agenda
06:36:59 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/WG_WoT_Thing_Description_WebConf#Agenda
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06:37:28 <kaz> scribenick: nwidell
06:37:33 <kaz> Scribe: Niklas
06:37:37 <nwidell> sebastian: We don't have so much time today.
06:37:43 <kaz> present+ Victor_Charpenay
06:38:14 <MariaPoveda> sorry, I was in the phone, not sure whether you heard me
06:38:19 <nwidell> sebastian: wants to discuss the time table ahead of the f2f, what is needed for plugfest
06:38:47 <kaz> q+
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06:39:50 <nwidell> mkoster: will provide update to the OCF mapping, slides in mail
06:41:14 <nwidell> nwidell: any work on IPSO?
06:41:55 <nwidell> mkoster: will add a mapping to ipso as well
06:42:11 <nwidell> uday: what about lwm2m?
06:42:42 <nwidell> mkoster: sounds good, will create a sub-directory to add the mappings,
06:44:35 <sebastian> we can hear you
06:44:59 <nwidell> me: what happened to the audio?
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06:45:15 <nwidell> ok I'm back
06:45:32 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest current practices document repo
06:47:41 <dape> Osaka version for wot practices --> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-osaka-2017.html
06:49:24 <nwidell> sebastian: process to update documents,
06:52:49 <kaz> The latest version on GitHub is: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/current-practices/wot-practices.html
06:53:07 <kaz> and we're wondering where to put the snapshot version from each f2f meeting
06:54:34 <nwidell> sebastian: will copy snapshot version into a sub-dir on the main td spec repo
06:56:13 <kaz> present+ Ari_Keranen
06:57:32 <kaz> separate wot-plugfest repo
06:57:52 <nwidell> sebastian: will discuss with kaz off-line
06:57:54 <kaz> [further discussion later offline]
06:58:59 <nwidell> sebastian: need to update td content model, small changes proposed,
06:59:25 <dape> q+
06:59:34 <kaz> q-
06:59:50 <nwidell> remove value type (doesn't make much sense any more), remove type definititions rely on json-schema
07:00:19 <nwidell> dape: no decision on how to add semantics for value_type
07:00:56 <dape> ack dape
07:01:11 <nwidell> sebastian: nobody used value_type at plugfest
07:01:38 <nwidell> victor: leave room for other schemas?
07:01:51 <nwidell> sebastian: let's discuss more later
07:02:45 <nwidell> in TD, always expect array rather than string
07:03:26 <nwidell> in context or type
07:04:13 <nwidell> update JSON-LD context file
07:04:50 <nwidell> maria: will update ontology with the latest decisions,
07:05:10 <nwidell> should start using w3c-uri? so we have the right namespace?
07:05:48 <nwidell> victor: can we put a ontology file in the td namespace next plugfest?
07:06:01 <nwidell> maria: probably
07:06:23 <nwidell> kaz: will look into how to do it
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07:07:46 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
07:07:47 <nwidell> sebastian: try to wrap up by next week
07:07:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
07:07:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
07:08:46 <nwidell> sebastian: plan is to update current practices document until June 23rd, including protocol bindings, content of things descriptions
07:08:58 <kaz> s/will look into how to do it/asking the W3C experts about how to update the TD namespace/
07:09:31 <nwidell> only two weeks after that until plugfest, so short time
07:09:57 <nwidell> topic Plugfest
07:10:16 <nwidell> sebastian: which scenarios to try out at plugfest?
07:10:16 <kaz> i|plan is to update|sebastian: have difficulty with creating subdirectory under the TD repo (https://github.com/w3c/wot-thing-description)|
07:10:30 <nwidell> integrate discovery
07:11:03 <kaz> i|plan is to update|kaz: think you need to set up ash-nazg IPR manager for GitHub. let's talk about the detail offline.|
07:11:40 <nwidell> mkoster: suggest looking at do discovery okn partial tds, ie discover using annotations
07:12:52 <nwidell> sebastian: settle on small set of annotations to start with, maybe using ontologies specified elsewhere (onem2m, ocf)
07:13:07 <nwidell> mkoster: look at using iot.schema.org
07:14:53 <nwidell> which has come up with a simple strawman model, close to wot-td model.
07:15:37 <nwidell> target is to have i.s.o come up with small atomic capabilities
07:15:57 <nwidell> victor: use SAREF (has terms for switch on/off).
07:16:15 <MariaPoveda> Here we are defining those properties: http://iot.linkeddata.es/def/core#
07:16:58 <nwidell> sebastian: need to decide which ontolgy to use for plugfest
07:17:33 <nwidell> mkoster: related discussion in LD-TF, figure out what people want to bring and list that.
07:17:57 <MariaPoveda> example of how to use it together with WoT ontology and SSN ontology http://iot.linkeddata.es/def/core/index-en.html#ex1
07:20:17 <nwidell> sebastian: let's continue in LD-TF, need decision very soon to align on ontology
07:21:07 <nwidell> sebastian: should we involved onem2m in plugfest? Not clear what is needed but proposals are being created
07:21:42 <nwidell> Would also like to integrate BIG IoT project (Europe), show how to combine with WoT
07:21:59 <nwidell> ACTION ITEMS
07:22:34 <nwidell> topic action items
07:23:12 <nwidell> dape: array vs strings, probably not a big issue
07:23:55 <nwidell> mkoster: ietf mixes strings and arrays, ocf uses only array, propose we should also use array
07:24:24 <nwidell> sebastian: propose to close issue
07:24:55 <nwidell> sebastian: semantic annotation in json-schema. No progress
07:26:46 <nwidell> different alternatives possible, should invlove the json-schema folks
07:30:09 <kaz> Meeting: WoT WG - TD-TF
07:30:16 <nwidell> document in best practices on (Victor )
07:30:18 <kaz> Chair: Sebastian
07:30:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
07:30:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-wot-td-minutes.html kaz
07:31:04 <nwidell> sebastian: JSON-LD namespaces. no update
07:32:33 <nwidell> sebastian: binary-encodings, serialization of TD? Can we close it? Looks complete, should be linked with test-issue
07:34:21 <kaz> [adjourned]
07:34:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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