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13:29:46 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:29:46 <trackbot> Date: 09 June 2017
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13:31:52 <SarahHorton> trackbot, start meeting
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13:31:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
13:31:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
13:31:58 <trackbot> Date: 09 June 2017
13:31:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
13:33:21 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Research survey core research questions finalized
13:33:28 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Research project sheet review
13:33:34 <sloandr> present+
13:33:34 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Poll https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/forms/d/1wjB5ZCvMAIBpMkQELA61czFsRR3-EVdjJbyeaZXNRMY/edit
13:33:39 <SarahHorton> agenda+ November 9th Meetup
13:33:45 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Policies on stakeholder list
13:33:51 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Open action item review https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open
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13:34:39 <SarahHorton> present+ Jeanne, Sarah, Jennison, Dave
13:34:47 <SarahHorton> regrets+ Shawn
13:35:32 <SarahHorton> chair: Jeanne
13:35:37 <SarahHorton> scribe: Sarah
13:35:51 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 1
13:35:51 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Research survey core research questions finalized" taken up [from SarahHorton]
13:36:40 <SarahHorton> Dave: Collected feedback from RQTF, shared response in email
13:37:32 <SarahHorton> Dave: Branching question, no questions for the "no" branch
13:37:35 <jemma> present+ JaEunJemmaKu
13:39:08 <sloandr> RQTF survey feedback: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-silver/2017Jun/0011.html
13:39:57 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Keeping in mind these are core questions, and "no" branch might go to actual survey
13:42:17 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Worry that we are making core questions too big
13:42:41 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Agree, let's leave door open to creating "no" questions down the road
13:44:25 <SarahHorton> Jemma: Could ask about other standards
13:45:31 <SarahHorton> Dave: Already ask questions about familiarity with other standards
13:46:24 <SarahHorton> s/other standards/accessibility
13:47:36 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: If it's too long then people might not complete it
13:48:06 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Maybe the question about other standards and sources of truth is helpful
13:48:47 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Let's do our own survey and ask that
13:49:49 <SarahHorton> Sarah: That means we keep the core questions to demographics and WCAG usability
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13:50:37 <SarahHorton> Dave: More feedback, is there value asking why people use WCAG?
13:50:51 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Might be stakeholder specific
13:55:00 <SarahHorton> Jemma: Looking at categorization of research questions, trying to map, hard to sort core questions and from survey specific questions
13:55:27 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Will be asking these questions on every survey, need to keep that in mind
13:57:54 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Think we're interfering with researchers
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14:03:35 <jemma> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vDzSCO-mEnPB7jaAzIhOOLf92b0pCuzzR8u_GSWTw_M/edit
14:04:47 <SarahHorton> Jemma: There are questions in the feedback from RQTF that we could offer to researchers to use
14:05:20 <SarahHorton> Jemma: Add to question bank
14:06:06 <SarahHorton> Dave: Other demographic questions, add casual/consultant question to list
14:06:54 <SarahHorton> Dave: Other suggestion on learning accessibilty, suggestion to include formalized training and newsletters
14:07:14 <SarahHorton> Dave: Other questions might be in question bank
14:07:48 <SarahHorton> Dave: WCAG more than guidelines and SC, other resources aren't included in core questions
14:09:05 <SarahHorton> Dave: Could limit core questions to demographic data
14:10:00 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Good question about using resources other than SC
14:10:36 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Removing WCAG questions, include RQTF questions in our own survey with the WCAG questions
14:12:20 <SarahHorton> Dave: RQTF willing to provide input on future surveys, will need more time to review and collate feedback
14:13:37 <SarahHorton> Dave: Internationalization, important process question, when we're doing surveys, if we only deliver surveys in English we exclude people
14:14:03 <SarahHorton> Dave: Do we require researchers to translate?
14:14:15 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Could we include this in funding requests?
14:16:21 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Difficult to manage translations so they are fair, we should encourage researchers to do work in own language
14:16:51 <SarahHorton> Jemma: Could reach out to resources to do Korean translations
14:17:36 <SarahHorton> Dave: What about writing a blog post to address initialization?
14:18:01 <SarahHorton> s/initialization/internationalization
14:18:29 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Great idea
14:18:57 <SarahHorton> Dave: We really care about this but we have limited capacity
14:19:42 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Active groups around the world, can approach them when we have survey ready to go
14:19:54 <jeanne> action: jeanne to write a blog post on the SIlver position on internationalization and translation into other languages
14:19:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Write a blog post on the silver position on internationalization and translation into other languages [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-06-16].
14:20:34 <jeanne> action-93 due 21 July
14:20:34 <trackbot> Set action-93 Write a blog post on the silver position on internationalization and translation into other languages due date to 2017-07-21.
14:22:12 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Question about roles, does "person with a disability" belong in list of jobs, could we ask that separately?
14:23:14 <SarahHorton> Dave: We have two groups, people who need accessibility guidelines, people who use accessibility guidelines, sometimes overlap
14:24:46 <jeanne> Jennison: Do you self-identify as having a disability or impairment?  Yes or No.
14:29:57 <SarahHorton> action: Dave to start work on question bank
14:29:57 <trackbot> Error finding 'Dave'. You can review and register nicknames at <https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/users>.
14:30:14 <SarahHorton> action: sloandr to start work on question bank
14:30:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Start work on question bank [on David Sloan - due 2017-06-16].
14:30:55 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Will get back to Pete
14:33:27 <SarahHorton> Jemma: Will want to learn more about Nov 9 meeting
14:34:07 <SarahHorton> Sarah: we have signed off on core question, focusing on demographics
14:34:26 <SarahHorton> Sarah: we are setting up question bank with other questions, Dave will own question bank
14:35:10 <SarahHorton> Dave: Will provide some text about how to use the question bank
14:35:28 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Dave can continue checking in with RQTF about question bank
14:36:23 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Need to be agile with the questions
14:38:43 <SarahHorton> agenda+ Research project sheet review
14:38:54 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 1
14:38:54 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Research survey core research questions finalized" taken up [from SarahHorton]
14:38:59 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 2
14:38:59 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Research project sheet review" taken up [from SarahHorton]
14:39:11 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-minutes.html jeanne
14:41:23 <SarahHorton> Dave: Lowell has started exploring adaptations of WCAG, has list of adaptations, next steps are to review and identify themes, do we have suggestions of where to find more adaptations
14:41:41 <SarahHorton> Dave: He's doing a broad approach to including adaptations
14:43:29 <SarahHorton> Dave: Looking for suggested timeline
14:44:07 <SarahHorton> Jennison: He could post note to email discussion list (e.g., WebAIM)
14:44:25 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Dave will connect Lowell with Jan's contac
14:44:49 <SarahHorton> s/contac/contact
14:45:12 <SarahHorton> Dave: Do we have preferences about where to store data and report activities
14:46:46 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Could use community group as researcher hub
14:47:21 <SarahHorton> Jennison: What are the deliverables? Information about adapations, analysis, maybe a survey?
14:47:35 <SarahHorton> s/adapations/adaptations
14:47:52 <SarahHorton> Dave: Would be great to learn motivation for adaptations
14:49:14 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Can we encourage him to post on the Community Group?
14:49:40 <SarahHorton> Dave: Will do, and then he can publicize on mailing lists
14:50:50 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Pete is ready to go, we will inform him about core questions and then he can go
14:51:24 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Also Thomas Westin responded and is interested in game accessibility
14:53:29 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up next
14:53:29 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Research survey core research questions finalized" taken up [from SarahHorton]
14:53:35 <jeanne> agenda?
14:53:58 <SarahHorton> zakim, take up item 3
14:53:58 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Poll https://docs.google.com/a/google.com/forms/d/1wjB5ZCvMAIBpMkQELA61czFsRR3-EVdjJbyeaZXNRMY/edit" taken up [from SarahHorton]
14:55:08 <SarahHorton> jeanne: Needs introduction and needs to be broken up into headings
14:56:46 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Poll is going to community group, first attempt at engaging group in dialog
14:57:38 <SarahHorton> Jennison: Will be accompanying email
14:58:40 <SarahHorton> Dave: What about language, is there a way to indicate priority, is there another option?
14:59:36 <SarahHorton> Dave: Would rephrase to "no essential to" rather than "not directly related"
14:59:56 <SarahHorton> s/no essential to/not essential to
15:01:15 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Agreed, will add instructions for Shawn to poll document
15:05:32 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make minutes
15:05:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-minutes.html SarahHorton
15:05:41 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make logs public
15:07:44 <SarahHorton> zakim, clear agenda
15:07:44 <Zakim> agenda cleared
15:07:52 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, bye
15:07:52 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-actions.rdf :
15:07:52 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jeanne to write a blog post on the SIlver position on internationalization and translation into other languages [1]
15:07:52 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-irc#T14-19-54
15:07:52 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Dave to start work on question bank [2]
15:07:52 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-irc#T14-29-57
15:07:52 <RRSAgent> ACTION: sloandr to start work on question bank [3]
15:07:52 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/09-silver-irc#T14-30-14