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16:03:10 <trackbot> Meeting: Tracking Protection Working Group Teleconference
16:03:10 <trackbot> Date: 05 June 2017
16:04:20 <fielding> present+
16:04:33 <fielding> present+ schunter
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16:06:09 <aleecia> anyone scribing?
16:07:23 <fielding> scribe: aleecia
16:07:38 <aleecia> (thanks!)
16:07:46 <fielding> chair: schunter
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16:07:59 <aleecia> schunter: call for objections
16:08:18 <aleecia> … holiday in some parts of EU but going through text proposals. Mike proposed
16:08:27 <schunter> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/milestone/2
16:08:55 <aleecia> … in this we have two issues basically done, one is 22 is under call for objections
16:09:21 <aleecia> mikeoneill: edited the draft, in github. promises are in there.
16:09:27 <schunter> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/blob/master/drafts/tracking-dnt.html
16:09:35 <aleecia> … amended to fix a bug to return array for site-wide consent
16:09:54 <aleecia> … browser can decide to only support site-wide consent, return it in an object
16:10:02 <aleecia> schunter: can we look at it?
16:10:09 <aleecia> mikeoneill: up on the list,
16:10:53 <aleecia> … also support Aleecia’s view on “should” for policy link, that’s the thread, and continue to site-wide exceptions
16:11:36 <fielding> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/commit/803e40b370dfc7e7b986f8cf8936a6a346744d2b
16:11:41 <aleecia> (scribe plugs in laptop while others hunt for text to discuss)
16:11:58 <aleecia> (thanks, Roy!)
16:12:10 <fielding> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/commit/445d5a9a98f2808a0d72e978713e8f33630b00f5
16:12:33 <aleecia> mikeoneill: needs to return a value, resolves to an object, trackingprotectionresults.
16:12:44 <aleecia> … also did same thing for confirm to make it the same :-)
16:13:13 <aleecia> … confirm & restore return: bools site wide, exists
16:13:38 <aleecia> … before was just the promise with a bool, now both are an object so it’s the same and you don’t have to implement two things
16:13:51 <aleecia> … resolves to an object or returns a syntax error.
16:14:01 <aleecia> … site-wide set to true if the exception is site-wide
16:14:20 <aleecia> fielding: normally would require API name if you change the API
16:14:44 <aleecia> … still using the same API names for the published prior — change the names
16:14:59 <aleecia> mikeoneill: good idea
16:15:08 <aleecia> … shorter names would be good
16:15:21 <aleecia> fielding: just need to decide to change them
16:15:32 <aleecia> mikeoneill: sure, will come up with short names by next week
16:15:53 <aleecia> schunter: agrees on shorter new names
16:16:13 <aleecia> mikeoneill: used to be derived from common object, now sep
16:16:35 <aleecia> … some disadvantages put a link up, like David Singer suggested consent in batches.
16:16:48 <aleecia> … wouldn’t have to match them with the confirm if you don’t have the same objects
16:17:05 <aleecia> … there’s no explaination string and site name
16:17:18 <aleecia> fielding: saw the thread, wasn’t sure
16:17:33 <aleecia> … there was one where the store tracking exception was responding with -
16:18:23 <aleecia> mikeoneill: the dictionary, the property bag, they’re just sep but before, on the main list, it’s derived from a common property bag with common properties. before they all had a site name, property string, detail URI and all that
16:18:44 <aleecia> … just pointing that out. not wrong to do it this way, but affects what David Singer was saying on batches of exceptions
16:19:00 <aleecia> … might be better to have it the old way
16:19:55 <aleecia> aleecia: David’s point could be really important with dynamic partnerships on ads
16:20:17 <aleecia> mikeoneill: could also say “these are analytics” and batch by purpose
16:20:25 <aleecia> … user could revoke by purpose
16:20:34 <aleecia> … better granularity
16:20:46 <aleecia> … if we don’t have detail URI & explaination string, can’t match them up
16:21:03 <aleecia> fielding: understand you could theoretically do that but there’s nothing in the spec that mentions this
16:21:27 <aleecia> mikeoneill: don’t have the fields any more
16:21:49 <aleecia> fielding: right, because it didn’t make any sense. if we want them in, we need to add text to say what they’re for, and use them
16:21:57 <aleecia> … fine to have it but needs explaination
16:22:12 <aleecia> mikeoneill: could use Dave Singer in this discussion
16:22:26 <aleecia> schunter: please send email to David
16:22:30 <aleecia> mikeoneill: will do
16:22:38 <aleecia> schunter: new topic
16:23:05 <aleecia> … 2nd topic, must have a TSR
16:23:11 <aleecia> mikeoneill: did that, done
16:23:22 <aleecia> schunter: everyone’s fine with the update and we’re done?
16:23:32 <aleecia> fielding: change granted to requested?
16:23:36 <aleecia> mikeoneill: yes
16:23:40 <fielding> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/commit/803e40b370dfc7e7b986f8cf8936a6a346744d2b
16:23:43 <aleecia> https://github.com/w3c/dnt/commit/803e40b370dfc7e7b986f8cf8936a6a346744d2b
16:24:07 <aleecia> (appears to literally change the word “granted” to “requested”)
16:24:30 <aleecia> schunter: seems done, now we’re waiting for comments on call for objection. once done, ready to publish CR
16:24:37 <aleecia> … any other steps we need?
16:24:58 <aleecia> fielding: we’re changing the API, so have to go to working draft or last call, then request a new CR
16:25:10 <aleecia> schunter: believe that has changed now
16:25:19 <aleecia> fielding: ok, process is changed, not sure
16:25:36 <aleecia> schunter: anything else?
16:25:55 <aleecia> … how about a diff or wait until the end
16:26:08 <aleecia> … will be on holiday in june, so want to push it out so we don’t lose a month
16:26:15 <aleecia> fielding: last diff is basically it
16:26:29 <aleecia> schunter: appreciate after the API changes, then another diff
16:27:02 <aleecia> mikeoneill: site-specific tracking isn’t as pretty so something’s not right, will work on formatting too
16:27:29 <aleecia> fielding: will look at it, but going to London & Paris. might have time in transit
16:27:36 <aleecia> schunter: thanks a lot!
16:27:58 <aleecia> … all from me, will ask W3C staff for any final actions, will wait for Roy’s link for next version
16:28:14 <aleecia> … will look for call for objections comments
16:28:51 <fielding> zakim, list attendees
16:28:51 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, schunter
16:29:19 <fielding> resent+ mikeoneill, aleecia
16:29:44 <fielding> zakim, list attendees
16:29:44 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, schunter
16:29:58 <fielding> present+ mikeoneill, aleecia
16:32:09 <fielding> zakim, list attendees
16:32:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, schunter, mikeoneill, aleecia
16:33:01 <fielding> trackbot, end meeting
16:33:01 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:33:01 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been fielding, schunter, mikeoneill, aleecia
16:33:09 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:33:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/06/05-dnt-minutes.html trackbot
16:33:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:33:10 <RRSAgent> I see no action items