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14:13:54 <kaz> meeting: WoT IG - LD
14:14:18 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Danh_Le_Phuoc, Darko_Anicic, Feng_Zhang, Maria_Poveda, Michael_Koster
14:14:32 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
14:14:32 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Darko_Anicic
14:14:39 <kaz> zakim, pick a scribe
14:14:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Kaz_Ashimura
14:14:46 <kaz> scribenick: kaz
14:15:09 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_Linked_Data_and_Semantic_Processing_WebConf#Agenda
14:15:38 <kaz> topic: Plan for upcoming activities
14:15:54 <kaz> darko:
14:15:54 <kaz>         Preparation for the next F2F meeting and the Plug Fest participation
14:15:54 <kaz>         Proposal for aligning semantic models from W3C WoT TD, OCF, oneM2M etc.
14:16:22 <kaz> present+ AAchille_Zappa
14:16:53 <kaz> s/AAchille_Zappa/Achille_Zappa/
14:18:06 <kaz> darko: any topics for the next f2f meeting?
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14:18:22 <kaz> danh: roadmap?
14:18:43 <kaz> darko: tried to start something
14:18:53 <kaz> ... ideas on the roadmap
14:19:05 <kaz> ... didn't manage to provide any concrete proposal yet, though
14:19:10 <kaz> ... one question to Maria
14:19:21 <kaz> ... do you want to talk about your ontology work?
14:19:42 <kaz> ... temperature sensor, etc., during the breakouts
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14:20:22 <kaz> maria: can talk about something
14:20:29 <kaz> ... let me look for the slides
14:20:41 <kaz> darko: ok
14:21:07 <kaz> ... btw, is Michael McCool around today?
14:21:10 <kaz> ... no...
14:21:29 <kaz> ... recently, we talked about linked data model for WoT apps
14:21:45 <kaz> ... we'd like to think about practical alignment with the model
14:22:20 <kaz> ... devices coming from different areas
14:22:45 <kaz> ... WoT, OCF, oneM2M, ...
14:23:41 <kaz> danh: Darko's IRC disconnected?
14:24:09 <kaz> darko: share his screen again
14:24:27 <kaz> ... [The Linked Data for WoT Applications (persons?)]
14:24:52 <kaz> ... there is interest in starting work alignment with ontology/semantic models
14:24:55 <kaz> ... different levels
14:25:45 <kaz> ... 1st level (interactive model): OCF, oneM2M, etc.
14:26:26 <kaz> ... 2nd level (horizontal vocabulary): SSN/SOSA, SAREF (oneM2M), Haystack, Echonet
14:26:39 <kaz> s/OCF, oneM2M/WoT TD and OCF/
14:26:50 <kaz> ... demo during plugfest
14:27:01 <kaz> ... discover devices regardliess of the ecosystem
14:27:21 <kaz> ... interaction between devices from different ecosystems
14:27:36 <kaz> ... aligning with existing ontologies
14:27:50 <kaz> ... TD ontology derived from Maria
14:27:59 <kaz> ... also McCool's work
14:28:20 <kaz> ... OCF model
14:28:21 <kaz> ... and also oneM2M model
14:28:42 <kaz> ... on our Siemens side, we also started the 2nd level alignment
14:28:55 <kaz> ... any comments?
14:29:03 <kaz> q+
14:29:11 <kaz> danh: kind of confused
14:29:18 <kaz> ... alignment for what purpose?
14:29:24 <kaz> ... present information?
14:29:42 <kaz> ... get JSON-LD?
14:29:49 <kaz> darko: what is the goal?
14:30:02 <kaz> ... we have big 3 kinds of models
14:30:09 <kaz> ... WoT TD, OCF and oneM2M
14:30:16 <achille_zappa> present+ achille_zappa
14:30:26 <kaz> ... the first call is provided by some interaction model
14:30:51 <kaz> danh: so the goal is discovery?
14:30:58 <kaz> darko: yeah
14:31:21 <kaz> ... the next level is putting the W3C devices and other devices work together
14:31:48 <kaz> ... regarding scripting api tf, Michael Koster is working on OCF side
14:32:05 <kaz> ... the first part should be achieved by us
14:33:10 <kaz> ... e.g., I'm looking for a device regardless of what the device belongs to (ocf, oneM2M, ...)
14:33:16 <achille_zappa> align = map ?
14:33:43 <kaz> ... need to discover devices which (potentially) belong to various standards
14:33:52 <kaz> s/... need/darko: need/
14:34:14 <kaz> s|standards|standards/ecosystems|
14:34:40 <kaz> danh: ok
14:34:41 <kaz> q?
14:35:55 <kaz> kaz: the point here is
14:36:06 <kaz> ... starting with interaction model as the 1st level
14:36:21 <kaz> ... and handling concrete ecosystem-based vocabs as the 2nd level
14:36:23 <kaz> ... right?
14:36:27 <kaz> darko: right
14:36:34 <kaz> ack k
14:36:52 <kaz> darko: any volunteers for this work?
14:37:01 <kaz> danh: can work on SOSA
14:37:09 <kaz> darko: Victor also has started some work
14:37:28 <kaz> ... anyone who would work on the interaction model?
14:37:35 <kaz> ... e.g., based on the OCF model
14:37:47 <kaz> maria: not familiar with OCF model itself
14:38:07 <kaz> ... my contribution would be more related to oneM2M
14:38:20 <kaz> darko: ok
14:38:50 <kaz> ... my impression is that McCool would also appreciate your help
14:38:52 <kaz> ... let's see
14:39:02 <kaz> ... handling RDF
14:39:45 <kaz> ... [Thing Description Recipes (Darko)]
14:40:05 <kaz> ... interop client creates a WoT app based on some recipe
14:40:11 <kaz> ... that is a kind of template
14:40:21 <kaz> ... capability template
14:40:33 <kaz> ... discover first, instantiate, ...
14:40:50 <kaz> ... there two tasks
14:41:07 <kaz> ... recipe format based on TD and capability templates
14:41:13 <kaz> ... implement a prototype
14:41:21 <kaz> s/implement/and then implement/
14:41:31 <kaz> ... the focus would be TD
14:41:41 <kaz> ... not mixing with another standard
14:42:07 <kaz> ... would like to ask for volunteers for this as well
14:42:36 <kaz> s/would like to ask for volunteers for this as well/would like to volunteer myself for this/
14:42:44 <kaz> ... anybody interested in addition myself?
14:43:01 <kaz> koster: would like to work on it
14:43:06 <kaz> ... how smart things work
14:43:22 <kaz> ... machine constructive and human beings
14:43:36 <kaz> darko: formalizing capabilities
14:44:00 <kaz> ... let's see what we can do
14:44:05 <kaz> danh: me as well
14:44:21 <kaz> ... interested in semantic mashup for web services
14:44:32 <kaz> ... template for SPARQL recipe
14:44:43 <kaz> darko: ok
14:45:05 <kaz> ... could be incorporated with semantic web services
14:45:23 <kaz> ... need automatic query things
14:45:46 <kaz> koster: can you go back to the previous slide?
14:45:58 <kaz> darko: [The Linked Data for WoT Applications (persons?)]
14:46:09 <kaz> ... orchestration of multiple devices
14:46:20 <kaz> darke: make sense
14:46:32 <kaz> ... two devices from different ecosystems
14:46:49 <kaz> ... also interaction of devices from only WoT
14:46:58 <kaz> ... is possible
14:47:21 <kaz> ... [Semantic Processing for Web of Things]
14:47:28 <kaz> ... not finished this slide yet
14:47:40 <kaz> ... problem statement for semantic processing
14:47:47 <kaz> ... validation and verification
14:47:59 <kaz> ... specify property, event, action
14:48:32 <kaz> ... then you can validate the value, e.g., within specific value range
14:48:54 <kaz> ... your property is of some certain type
14:49:11 <kaz> q+
14:49:49 <kaz> ... are all the possible types within your TD semantically correct?
14:50:04 <kaz> ... some possible semantic constraints
14:50:14 <kaz> ... this is also some sort of task
14:50:20 <kaz> ... Victor working on validator
14:50:29 <kaz> ... Maria also expressed some interest
14:50:57 <kaz> danh: semantic processing here is just validation/verification?
14:51:02 <kaz> ... low level of semantic
14:51:36 <kaz> darko: this is based on the discussion so far
14:51:52 <kaz> ... it's up to us to decide what should be done for semantic processing
14:52:19 <kaz> ... first version of the validator could be a starting point
14:52:30 <kaz> danh: there are several things in "semantic processing"
14:52:38 <kaz> ... RDF semantics, etc.
14:52:47 <kaz> ... data type checking for RDF nodes
14:53:21 <kaz> ... taxinomy classification, etc.
14:54:03 <kaz> ... checking is available within programming languages already
14:54:13 <kaz> darko: do you have interest in this topic?
14:54:20 <kaz> danh: yeah
14:54:52 <kaz> ... but we should clarify the purpose of semantic processing
14:55:15 <kaz> ... in addition to vocabulary alignment
14:55:38 <kaz> darko: ok
14:55:54 <kaz> ... my intention is raising topics first
14:56:03 <kaz> ... and get people interested
14:56:39 <kaz> ... would contact all of you who are interested in each topic
14:56:51 <kaz> ... during upcoming telcos, we can talk about the details
14:57:02 <kaz> q+
14:57:14 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
14:57:30 <kaz> mccool: (joining now)
14:57:51 <kaz> ... for what do you want to get volunteers?
14:58:10 <kaz> darko: (goes through the topics)
14:58:56 <kaz> mccool: certainly interested in OCF things
14:59:20 <kaz> ... aligning the OCF model with the W3C WoT model
14:59:39 <kaz> danh: can moderate the last one (Semantic Processing)
14:59:49 <kaz> ... would like to talk with Victor, etc., as well
15:00:21 <kaz> ... SSN is still on its way for REC
15:01:08 <kaz> darko: TD Recipe: Koster, Danh, Darko
15:01:21 <kaz> ... Semantic Processing: Danh, Victor, Maria
15:01:29 <kaz> maria: interested in semantic validation
15:01:50 <kaz> ... but not sure what this topic itself means here
15:02:10 <kaz> ... happy to follow the discussion but a bit confused
15:02:25 <kaz> q-
15:02:47 <kaz> darko: this slide is rather empty, so we'd work on the details from now on
15:03:20 <kaz> ... we're getting out of time
15:03:26 <kaz> ... Maria's presentation for the next call
15:03:43 <kaz> danh: also can give some talk (10min or so, etc.)
15:03:51 <kaz> ... during the next call
15:03:55 <kaz> darko: ok
15:04:09 <kaz> ... will contact you offline
15:04:26 <kaz> ... any other business for today?
15:04:39 <kaz> mccool: are those slides available anywhere?
15:05:05 <kaz> darko: will send them
15:05:54 <kaz> ... in two weeks we'll have the next call
15:06:06 <kaz> [adjourned]
15:06:13 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:06:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:06:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/26-wot-minutes.html kaz
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