<eparsons> Hi all have trouble with webex... please wait
<SimonCox> Is webex working?
<eparsons> Sorry my host key is not working so I cannot start the webex...
<SimonCox> Plan B?
<ScottSimmons> I can get us a GoTo Meeting
<ScottSimmons> we can use this GTM: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/655312141
<eparsons> Plan B - https://hangouts.google.com/call/oaedzyiqvnedxh6c7ftvzugntmy
<ScottSimmons> OK, Ed's Hangouts wins as he is chair!
<eparsons> So my microphone is broken !!!
<SimonCox> we're all here ed!
<eparsons> Not my night !!!
<SimonCox> You get me up early for this?!?
<AndreaPerego> Sorry, Simon...
<eparsons> Sod it go on without me I need to restart
<SimonCox> We have no leadership or direction without ed!
<eparsons> But if I do you will lose the hangout so continue...
<eparsons> without my dulcet tones
<SimonCox> Scott - you'd b etter chair ...
<AndreaPerego> +0 (not there)
Resolved: Approve last meeting minutes
<eparsons> No others items
<ScottSimmons> Chris - we are on the Google Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/oaedzyiqvnedxh6c7ftvzugntmy
<SimonCox> for audio https://hangouts.google.com/call/oaedzyiqvnedxh6c7ftvzugntmy
... presentation to the OGC of the BP
... official positions like the BP document need a vote by the OGC technical committee
... item needs to pass by 2/3 yes to 1/3 no
... for a 45 day vote it is usual day 42 to get the majority in the ballot
... it is also going through the W3C process
... any comments?
SimonCox: OWL Time update
… tied down document 2-3 weeks ago
… review by the international standardisation group
… 6-7 issues were raised on GitHub
… spent the last couple of days on this
SimonCox: Issues were raised by Addison Philips by the W3C i18n Working Group
… Addison Philips is an expert on timezones and had some issues on that
… Have not solved the issue with the numbering of weeks in different jurisdictions
<SimonCox> numbering of week within year is locale specific was the other isse
<SimonCox> SSN Ontology - currently in public review
<SimonCox> Phila and tidaust have not joined recently
<SimonCox> need to trigger review by i18n WG
<SimonCox> gathering implementation evidence
<SimonCox> Geoscience Australia is implementing SOSA Core (Samples)
<SimonCox> SIgnificant reviews , + f2f conversations
<SimonCox> main item that has been noted as missing is *examples*
<SimonCox> now trying to add more
<SimonCox> SOme continuing discussion about modelling of Properties and ObservableProperties - esp class vs instance
<SimonCox> RDFS & OWL cannot restrict other people's implementation choices, but document will offer recommended patterns
<SimonCox> One comment about how Actuation model was developed
<SimonCox> One comment on Stimulus-Sensor-Observation - is there a similar Actuation pattern?
<ChrisLittle> * Scott I've now installed Hangouts. What was the link again please? IRC was killed in the process
<ScottSimmons> Chris - we are on the Google Hangout: https://hangouts.google.com/call/oaedzyiqvnedxh6c7ftvzugntmy for audio
<SimonCox> SSO pattern introduced non-used class (Stimulus) so reluctant to introduce similar for Actuation (Effect)
<SimonCox> SOme 'features at risk' now marked.
<SimonCox> Have moved many into a separate ontology (file) so can be easily made non-normative without destroying the shape of the document.
<SimonCox> So still significant refactoring of document underway ...
<SimonCox> (back to Armin as scribe)
ScottSimmons: QB4ST editor's draft
… EO-QB link to the editor's draft too
… CovJSON also link to the editor's draft
... we are looking into options on what to do with these documents in the OGC
... timeout period for the working group in the W3C, the OGC does not have that
... we are looking into a joint overarching working group and define a terms of reference
... OGC is the easier side for our joint work, Phil is working through the W3C hoops
<eparsons> Thank you
ChrisLittle: are you happy with how OWL-time turned out?
SimonCox: Chose to allow our hands tied from the legacy
… achieved my objectives
<eparsons> Thanks Scott I think we are done !!
<AndreaPerego> Thanks, and bye!
<eparsons> macbook argh !!!
<eparsons> bye bye !!
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