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12:06:07 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
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12:07:15 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Barry_Leiba, Daniel_Peintner, Dave_Raggett, Elena_Reshetova, Katsuyoshi_Naka, Kunihiko_Toumura, Maria_Poveda, Masato_Ohura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Taki_Kamiya, Uday_Davuluru, Yongjing_Zhang, Zoltan_Kis
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12:08:14 <dape> scribe: dape
12:08:17 <kaz> scribe: Daniel
12:08:19 <dape> scribeNick: DP
12:08:20 <kaz> scribenick: dape
12:08:44 <dape> MK: Agenda updated recently, https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
12:08:57 <dape> ... T2T updates
12:09:10 <dape> ... any other quick updates?
12:09:20 <dape> <none heard>
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12:09:39 <kaz> present+ Takeshi_Yamada
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12:09:55 <kaz> present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
12:10:11 <kaz> present+ Yingying_Chen
12:10:32 <dape> MC: w.r.t. agenda. I do have updates on security task force
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12:10:48 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#10_May_2017
12:11:11 <dape> MK: In the agenda there is link to t2t landing page
12:11:24 <dape> ... contains information about meeting in Prague
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12:11:41 <kaz> -> https://t2trg.github.io/ T2TRG in Prague
12:11:42 <mkovatsc> https://github.com/t2trg/2017-07-wishi
12:11:59 <kaz> s/Prague/Prague landing page/
12:12:13 <mkovatsc> https://goo.gl/forms/yUTebqK9C84Ef01i2
12:12:20 <dape> ... if you plan to attend fill out registration link (see above)
12:12:33 <kaz> s|https|-> https|
12:12:40 <dape> ...  Questions? Contact Ari
12:13:03 <dape> TOPIC: Security TF update
12:13:09 <kaz> s|wishi|wishi Workshop on IoT Semantic/Hypermedia Interoperability|
12:13:13 <dape> MK: FYI.. meetings have started
12:13:27 <dape> .. see login information on wiki page
12:13:43 <dape> ... discussed presentation about OCF
12:13:47 <kaz> s/Security TF/Security TF and OCF Liaison TF/
12:13:52 <dape> ... discussed OCF demo mapping
12:14:04 <dape> ... no protocol binding in place yet
12:14:17 <dape> ... MKoster send out strawman
12:14:48 <dape> ... hope to have some stuff done till end of F2F
12:14:57 <dape> ... Elena send PR
12:15:16 <dape> ... please also add issues if you have any
12:15:30 <dape> MK: Question about protocol binding
12:15:47 <dape> ... need information for breakout session
12:16:09 <dape> MC: Koster distributed a first draft
12:16:21 <dape> ... we lack examples..
12:16:25 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2017May/0010.html Michael Koster's write up
12:16:41 <kaz> present+ Kazuaki_Nimura
12:17:01 <dape> MK: Input would be great till breakout on Wednesday
12:17:19 <dape> Koster: Please take a look on what i send out
12:17:49 <dape> MK: Will do so
12:19:10 <dape> .. Uday can you also check what Michael send out
12:19:19 <dape> Uday: ok
12:19:20 <kaz> s/Uday/Uday,/
12:19:33 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:19:39 <dape> TOPIC: Osaka F2F
12:19:53 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201705/results registration results
12:19:59 <dape> MK: we do have a lot of attendees by now
12:20:09 <dape> Kaz: 51 people registered
12:20:19 <dape> ... some remotely.. most will be there
12:20:38 <dape> ... chairs call issues: possible expected place for PlugFest on Sunday
12:20:58 <dape> ... another problem how to get Panasonic facility on Monday
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12:21:19 <jhund> q+
12:21:26 <dape> ... will send information about the way to Panasonic
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12:21:41 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/images/0/0f/Demo_tour_access_map.pdf
12:21:45 <dape> MK: we do have already a nice map with links how to get there
12:22:05 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/images/e/ee/Panasonic_access_map.pdf
12:22:15 <kaz> s|https|-> https|
12:22:25 <dsr> The ICOCA card + HARUKA discount ticket looks attractive for people from outside of Japan.
12:22:33 <kaz> s|pdf|pdf access map to Panasonic|
12:22:36 <dape> MC: Organizers wanted to have poster for demo
12:22:49 <mkovatsc> q?
12:22:55 <mkovatsc> ack jhund
12:22:55 <barryleiba> Does Uber work in Osaka?
12:23:07 <dape> ... would need information by Friday (Panasonic could organize printing)
12:23:21 <dape> JH: Unfortunatley I cannot get to Osaka..
12:23:35 <McCool> to barry: no, but taxis are easy to get... best to bring a printed map, though
12:23:46 <dape> ... i have a hotel close to meeting.. if needed
12:23:58 <barryleiba> OK, ta.
12:24:05 <jhund> ack jhund
12:24:20 <dape> ... Zoltan and I will try to organize scripting discussions
12:24:36 <McCool> q+
12:24:40 <dape> MK: Wonder about Sunday? Sebastian and I are there
12:24:52 <dape> ... meet in lobby?
12:24:56 <dape> ... where could we meet
12:25:11 <dape> MC: We assume Matthias' hotel
12:25:18 <dape> ... you have network stuff..
12:25:23 <dape> ... we will try to be there
12:25:55 <dape> MK: Will add information to wiki about hotel
12:26:05 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_May_2017,_Osaka,_Japan#Agenda
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12:27:29 <dape> MK: Important to discuss Osaka agenda (see link above)
12:27:35 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_May_2017,_Osaka,_Japan#Agenda
12:27:52 <dape> ... tried to schedule most things in the afternoon
12:28:16 <dape> ... scripting and security in afternoon (leads participate remotely)
12:28:49 <dape> <MK shares agenda screen>
12:29:02 <dape> .. will add information for Sunday
12:29:16 <dape> ... Plugfest on Monday (open 9 am)
12:29:36 <dape> ... Tueday open day
12:29:48 <dape> ... scheduled already
12:30:01 <dape> ... minor change.. added security slot
12:30:15 <dape> .. Wednesday starts technical work
12:30:32 <dape> ... starts with reflecting TD building blocks
12:31:05 <dape> ... Barry from T2T
12:31:08 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:32:31 <dape> SK: Maria joining call.. can we shift TD discussion
12:32:43 <dape> Maria: Wednesday at 2 am ?
12:32:53 <dape> ... guess i can connect..
12:33:26 <dape> ... aligned with linked data task force?
12:34:00 <dape> MK:  linked data task force on Thursay (9am ECT)
12:36:07 <dape> YY: need for my topics TD experts involved
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12:36:49 <dape> MK: slot about HATEOS (synced with Johannes)
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12:37:03 <dape> ... afternoon scripting
12:37:11 <dape> ... in parallel security topic
12:38:10 <dape> MC: Suggestion about security.. split?
12:38:20 <dape> MK: Did split as asked in wiki
12:39:03 <dape> .. Thursday OCF review in the morning
12:39:56 <dape> ... M Koster ... from where are u participating ?
12:40:09 <dape> Koster: from home.. so whole slot is fine for me
12:40:53 <dape> MK: morning also TD , data types
12:41:20 <dape> ... we have free slot starting from  11 am... if needed
12:41:34 <dape> ... afternoon scripting API
12:42:23 <dape> ... check other relevant slots/topics
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12:43:24 <dape> JH: wrt. to scripting .. ask people from XYZ to join this slot
12:43:46 <dape> ... in parallel security sesssion
12:44:19 <dape> ... late afternoon about TD serialization
12:44:45 <McCool> q+ McCool
12:46:11 <dape> SK: wonder about CBOR tags... do we have a presenter?
12:46:28 <dape> MK: not sure.. can check with Carsten
12:47:28 <mkovatsc> q?
12:48:09 <mjkoster> https://github.com/mjkoster/wot-protocol-binding/blob/master/link-format-td-v2.json
12:48:30 <dape> MC:  On Friday I plan to have a discussion about use cases
12:48:53 <dape> MK: Friday starts with summaries and next steps
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12:49:24 <dape> ... ask task force leads to be prepared
12:49:26 <McCool> q-
12:49:37 <dape> .. after that use case discussion
12:49:49 <McCool> q+
12:49:54 <dape> ... in the afternoon revisit topic about marketing
12:50:10 <dape> ... also discussion about web pages
12:50:30 <dape> MC: w.r.t presentation material. created new place on github
12:51:09 <kaz> q?
12:51:09 <dape> MK: at 4 pm next meeting discussions
12:51:14 <McCool> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/PRESENTATIONS
12:51:17 <dape> ack McCool
12:51:24 <McCool> (collection of presentation material so far...)
12:51:35 <McCool> q-
12:51:47 <dape> MK: please have a look at agenda
12:51:50 <kaz> q+
12:52:09 <dape> ... comment if there are issues/conflicts
12:52:41 <mkovatsc> q?
12:52:53 <dape> Kaz: 2 small topics
12:53:13 <dape> .... 1. automotive on open day... got confirmation
12:53:31 <dape> .... 2. created dedicated mailing list just for the attendees
12:53:45 <mkovatsc> q?
12:53:50 <dape> .... will use this list for restaurant announcements et cetera
12:53:51 <kaz> ack k
12:53:52 <naka> q+
12:54:16 <kaz> s/confirmation/confirmation and I myself will give that talk/
12:54:36 <kaz> s/for the attendees/for the f2f attendees/
12:54:54 <dape> Naka: w.r.t. Open Day... Mr. Yamasaki can join from 3pm on
12:55:32 <dape> MK: Having a longer break?
12:58:49 <dape> <MK shifts slots>
13:00:31 <mkovatsc> q?
13:00:53 <dape> ack naka
13:00:53 <mkovatsc> ack na
13:00:58 <kaz> lunch till 1:30pm, yamasaki-san 3:30-4pm, yongjing 4pm-4:30pm
13:01:09 <dape> TOPIC: PlugFest
13:01:17 <dape> MK: a bit late
13:01:27 <dape> ... working on TD for TestThing
13:01:35 <kaz> i/PlugFest/demo place is 45 mins by train from the meeting venue/
13:01:47 <dape> ... also including complex types
13:02:40 <dape> ... later today/tomorrow we can share TD
13:02:59 <dape> ... question by implementers?
13:03:05 <kaz> q?
13:03:09 <dape> ... how many implementers are in the call
13:03:15 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:03:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/10-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:03:30 <dape> MC: I am on the call.. need to catch up.. I do understand the plan
13:03:43 <dape> Koster: how is reference TD distributed?
13:03:57 <McCool> q+
13:04:08 <dape> MK: will send to mailinglist... include also link to github
13:04:25 <dape> ... maybe also CP document
13:04:36 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG/WG
13:04:43 <kaz> Chair: Matthias
13:04:46 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:04:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/10-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:04:59 <dape> MC: we are behind schedule. We hope to have OCF wrapper by end of F2F
13:07:00 <dape> ... miss still PlugFest feedback
13:07:14 <dape> s/... miss/MK:
13:07:36 <dape> Naka: will provide same demo as last time
13:07:44 <barryleiba> I have to drop off...
13:07:47 <barryleiba> present-
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13:08:08 <dape> MK: Maybe we can try to join the PlugFest... avoiding close system
13:09:09 <dape> MK: Nimura-san.... what about your PlugFest plans?
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13:09:54 <k_nimura> I have audio problem]
13:10:46 <k_nimura> ok
13:11:07 <dape> MK: KDDI on the call?
13:11:12 <dape> Kaz: none
13:11:40 <dape> .. talked to AC rep from KDDI
13:12:02 <dape> ... plan to bring chirimen board
13:12:27 <kaz> s/plan/think they have a plan/
13:12:31 <mkovatsc> q?
13:13:18 <dape> Kaz: Sun Micro presentation planned... with printer
13:13:24 <kaz> s/Sun/Star/
13:13:43 <kaz> s/printer/small printer (e.g., for receipts)/
13:13:45 <McCool> q-
13:13:47 <dape> ack McCool
13:14:15 <dape> MK: any more questions? Logistics unclear?
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13:14:45 <dape> JH: will there be remote participation information on wiki?
13:15:09 <dape> MK: for any remote participant please add your name to wiki agenda
13:15:36 <dape> .. do rooms have audio setup?
13:15:42 <dape> MK: can bring 1 Jabra
13:15:47 <dape> MC: can bring one too
13:16:48 <mkovatsc> q?
13:16:55 <dape> MK: see most of you in Japan!
13:17:43 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
13:17:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:17:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/10-wot-minutes.html kaz
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