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14:42:12 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:42:15 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:42:18 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:42:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:42:18 <trackbot> Date: 27 April 2017
14:42:18 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
14:42:25 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:42:29 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
14:42:52 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Apr/0017.html
14:42:56 <addison> Regrets: Felix
14:43:06 <addison> agenda+ Agenda
14:43:10 <addison> agenda+ Action Items
14:43:15 <addison> agenda+ Info Share
14:43:18 <addison> agenda+ Radar
14:43:33 <addison> agenda+ CSS Text Decoration
14:43:42 <addison> agenda+ Support for bidi in strings
14:43:49 <addison> agenda+ AOB?
14:44:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
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15:03:38 <addison> present+ Steve
15:03:41 <addison> present+ Richard
15:03:44 <addison> present+ Addison
15:04:54 <addison> present+ Jan
15:05:53 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:05:53 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
15:05:56 <addison> agenda?
15:06:13 <addison> richard: html review
15:06:20 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:06:20 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
15:06:32 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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15:07:09 <addison> action-611?
15:07:09 <trackbot> action-611 -- Addison Phillips to Contact martin to see if unicode-xml will be worked on soon so that wg can decide if alternate next steps are needed -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN
15:07:09 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/611
15:09:01 <addison> action-613?
15:09:01 <trackbot> action-613 -- Richard Ishida to Add pictures of successful rendering to bidi strings doc -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN
15:09:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/613
15:09:04 <addison> close action-613
15:09:04 <trackbot> Closed action-613.
15:09:23 <addison> action-553?
15:09:23 <trackbot> action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard to develop a pros/cons document describing the different bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
15:09:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553
15:09:26 <addison> stale
15:09:29 <addison> close action-553
15:09:29 <trackbot> Closed action-553.
15:09:51 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:09:51 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
15:10:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:10:16 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:10:16 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Radar" taken up [from addison]
15:10:22 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
15:11:18 <addison> richard: reviewed html52 bits that changed
15:11:23 <addison> ... came up with only one issue
15:11:31 <addison> ... came up with a non-i18n issue too
15:11:37 <addison> .. which I forwarded
15:12:20 <addison> addison: 51 holdovers?
15:12:30 <addison> richard: several in our list
15:12:36 <addison> ... not sure status
15:12:56 <addison> addison: schedule time next week to review
15:13:36 <addison> ... IMSC due
15:13:44 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/376
15:15:19 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
15:15:56 <addison> richard: issues arising on grapheme clusters in Indic
15:16:05 <addison> ... from unicode
15:16:18 <addison> ... where you break grapheme clusters
15:16:29 <addison> ... only tells part of story and possibly problematic
15:16:37 <addison> ... for cases where character shape can differ
15:16:56 <addison> ... need more folks involved in indic work; needs a relaunch?
15:17:45 <addison> addison: not sure, given what we know, that there's a solution
15:21:09 <addison> richard: reviewing the javascript course
15:21:22 <addison> ... not a lot to say about i18n
15:21:34 <addison> ... did add 3 pages of stuff on keyboards and such
15:21:42 <addison> ... could be good basis for an article?
15:21:54 <addison> ... not doing anything with escapes in this basic course
15:24:43 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1
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15:25:57 <addison> action: addison: finalize floating time article for publication
15:26:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-615 - Finalize floating time article for publication [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-05-04].
15:26:42 <addison> agenda?
15:26:54 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
15:26:54 <Zakim> agendum 5. "CSS Text Decoration" taken up [from addison]
15:27:11 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
15:27:37 <addison> richard: went through fantasai's disposition of comments
15:27:41 <addison> ... at her request
15:27:48 <addison> ... some things where she's looking for feedback
15:27:54 <addison> ... labeled those as pending
15:31:05 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
15:31:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:31:56 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/23
15:32:20 <addison> addison: that may need a title adjustment. thread zeroed in on emphasis marks on punctuation?
15:32:55 <addison> agenda?
15:33:15 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/389
15:33:25 <addison> richard: some additional text now in the first comment box
15:33:36 <addison> ... this is a tracker issue, contrib to the actual issue, etc.
15:33:51 <addison> ... that will pop up when we create a new "tracker" issue
15:34:15 <addison> ... if you click on new issue you'll see a para
15:36:42 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/string-base-direction.html
15:36:46 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 6
15:36:47 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Support for bidi in strings" taken up [from addison]
15:36:58 <addison> richard: look at from 2 perspectives
15:37:09 <addison> ... for proposals but also for specdev as intro text
15:37:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
15:37:55 <Zakim> agendum 7. "AOB?" taken up [from addison]
15:38:39 <addison> richard: ruby content model notes
15:38:47 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/ruby-content-model
15:38:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:38:52 <addison> Topic: Ruby Content Model
15:39:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:39:10 <addison> richard: initial stab
15:39:19 <addison> ... ruby annotation spec and html5 have different models
15:39:24 <addison> ... other specs doing it too
15:39:32 <addison> ... css also has needs developing
15:39:38 <addison> ... so basic content model for ruby
15:39:46 <addison> ... core base
15:39:59 <addison> richard: *not* saying "this is how to ruby in html5"
15:40:14 <addison> ... establish the core. if you want to add nested, that's an addition
15:40:22 <addison> ... not describing the markup either
15:40:27 <addison> ... just relationship
15:42:29 <addison> addison: mising fallback?
15:49:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:50:11 <addison> Topic: support for direction
15:50:28 <addison> richard: html5 changed to make dir attribute do bidi isolation
15:50:42 <addison> ... other browsers do that, but edge does not
15:50:50 <addison> ... possible to encourage that?
15:51:06 <addison> jan: will try to share
15:51:19 <addison> richard: here's a link to tests
15:51:32 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/the-dir-attribute-isolation
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16:25:50 <r12a> s/indic work; needs a relaunch?/indic work; needs to be updated faster/
16:26:12 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:26:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html r12a
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