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14:57:49 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
14:57:49 <trackbot> Date: 26 April 2017
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15:06:38 <jtandy> Topic: Approve Minutes https://www.w3.org/2017/04/12-sdwbp-minutes
15:06:48 <AndreaPerego> +1
15:06:55 <ClemensPortele> +1
15:07:01 <Linda> +0 wasn't there
15:07:07 <jtandy> +1
15:07:21 <joshlieberman> +1
15:07:25 <LarsG> +0 wasn't there
15:07:28 <jtandy> Topic: Agree updated release schedule
15:07:53 <jtandy> WG email: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2017Apr/0300.html
15:08:41 <jtandy> - Monday 8-May: freeze document (work finished on this sprint)
15:08:41 <jtandy> - Wednesday 10-May: WG vote to release
15:09:40 <jtandy> Propose: vote by correspondence for BP WD release
15:09:56 <joshlieberman> +1
15:10:02 <Linda> +1
15:10:03 <joshlieberman> as I'll be traveling that day
15:10:03 <AndreaPerego> +1
15:10:04 <LarsG> +1
15:10:06 <billroberts> +1
15:10:10 <MattPerry> +1
15:10:10 <ClemensPortele> +1
15:10:25 <jtandy> Resolved: vote by correspondence for BP WD release
15:10:46 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
15:10:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/26-sdwbp-minutes.html AndreaPerego
15:10:47 <jtandy> ... which means that the BP meeting on 10-May will be 15:00utc
15:11:03 <jtandy> - Friday 12-May: webinar** to present Best Practices to Technical Committee
15:11:03 <jtandy> (TC)
15:12:31 <jtandy> "at most a couple of slides"
15:12:42 <jtandy> plus reference the document to review.
15:13:25 <joshlieberman> Note from Scott that since drafts have been posted before, the 3-week rule is not hard and fast.
15:13:57 <jtandy> we would start the vote on 29 May, which ends the vote in mid-July. After the vote, there would be a 2-week electronic (email) vote by the PC.
15:14:03 <jtandy> (said Scott)
15:15:44 <jtandy> Any editorial changes post end of WG can be done by Geosemantics WG
15:16:01 <jtandy> OGC vote to start 29-May
15:16:14 <jtandy> TC vote end in mid-July
15:16:23 <jtandy> PC vote end at end-July
15:16:41 <jtandy> ... to release as an OGC Best Practice document
15:18:22 <jtandy> Topic: Review (& hopefully resolve) open BP issues in GitHub
15:18:32 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
15:18:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/26-sdwbp-minutes.html AndreaPerego
15:18:55 <jtandy> Topic: Sprint status review
15:18:55 <ClemensPortele> On the previous topic: "BP Documents shall be approved by formal electronic vote" (http://docs.opengeospatial.org/pol/05-020r24/05-020r24.html#85)
15:19:11 <jtandy> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Detailed_planning_BP_document#Mid_March_-_end_of_April_2017:
15:20:40 <AndreaPerego> Revised version of format tables: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2017Apr/0318.html
15:22:07 <joshlieberman> suggest using "encoding format"
15:22:53 <joshlieberman> AndreaPerego: proposing 2 separate tables, one for (encoding) formats, second for vocabularies.
15:22:54 <AndreaPerego> Rows from Clemens's table not included in the new format table:
15:22:56 <AndreaPerego> - Requires authoring of a vocabulary/schema for my data (or use of existing ones) - Supports reuse of third party vocabularies for features and properties - Supports extensions (geometry types, metadata, etc.) - Supports non-simple property values - Supports multiple values per property - Supports multiple geometries per feature - Support for non-linear interpolations in curves - Support for non-planar interpolations in surfaces
15:23:08 <joshlieberman> joshlieberman: where does that place languages (gml, rdf)?
15:24:05 <ClemensPortele> q+
15:24:12 <jtandy> q+
15:24:17 <jtandy> ack ClemensPortele
15:25:10 <joshlieberman> Clemens: should have only 1 table for formats
15:25:33 <jtandy> q?
15:25:37 <jtandy> ack jtandy
15:26:32 <ClemensPortele> q+
15:26:45 <joshlieberman> jtandy: decision parameters include link support, which GeoJSON doesn't directly support (but JSON format does)
15:27:24 <joshlieberman> q+
15:27:46 <joshlieberman> Andrea: JSON supports links, but they are not interpreted in GeoJSON standard.
15:27:57 <jtandy> ack ClemensPortele
15:28:57 <jtandy> ack joshlieberman
15:30:00 <jtandy> josh: difference between inserting a URL into a literal text field and describing a hyperlink; the latter needs the link relation described with some additional pattern
15:30:15 <jtandy> ... need to define what a link actually contains
15:30:35 <joshlieberman> Clemens: GeoJSON does not explicitly support linking
15:32:59 <jtandy> q?
15:33:40 <joshlieberman> joshlieberman: some ambiguity with encoding versus language versus vocabulary
15:34:40 <Linda> q+
15:34:48 <jtandy> ack Linda
15:36:01 <ClemensPortele> q+
15:36:07 <AndreaPerego> q+
15:36:31 <jtandy> ack ClemensPortele
15:36:32 <joshlieberman> linda: difficult to untangle, but 2 tables may still be useful
15:37:46 <joshlieberman> Clemens: perfection is unattainable, but maybe we can inform without being too rigorous.
15:37:57 <jtandy> ack AndreaPerego
15:38:04 <joshlieberman> Clemens: paragraph of explaining table distinctions?
15:39:09 <joshlieberman> Andrea: linking to relevant BP sections help to clarify the classification of entries in the tables
15:39:57 <joshlieberman> joshlieberman: combination of explanatory paragraph and links to text should work
15:40:13 <joshlieberman> +1
15:41:16 <joshlieberman> jtandy: might be better to remove criterion of "stream-able"
15:41:53 <jtandy> Glossary : https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Detailed_planning_BP_document#Glossary
15:43:34 <joshlieberman> jtandy: Verifying the glossary needs a new owner...
15:44:04 <joshlieberman> jtandy: glossary issues #212, #209
15:44:25 <jtandy> s/209/39/
15:45:13 <joshlieberman> Linda: #212 seems like a sizeable task
15:45:51 <joshlieberman> josh: can't take it on. Still finishing ogeo and GeoRSS docs
15:46:54 <jtandy> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Detailed_planning_BP_document#Mid_March_-_end_of_April_2017:
15:47:54 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
15:47:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/26-sdwbp-minutes.html AndreaPerego
15:51:56 <joshlieberman> Andrea: tackling BP5 soon
15:52:13 <joshlieberman> josh: tackling BP 9, 13 today
15:52:55 <billroberts> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/214
15:53:26 <joshlieberman> jtandy: trying to refer back to DWBP there
15:53:31 <billroberts> https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/237
15:55:04 <joshlieberman> jtandy: no mention of coverage data types in BP at present, so good to add.
15:55:51 <joshlieberman> jtandy: Jon Blower has made a response to scientific data question
15:56:10 <joshlieberman> bill: new schedule works for completing tasks.
15:56:26 <joshlieberman> jtandy: BP14 still on my plate
15:56:41 <joshlieberman> jtandy: BP17 still a task for Andrea.
15:56:59 <joshlieberman> jtandy: Linda and I have work on conclusions, etc.
15:57:35 <Linda> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/BP_sorted_issue_list
15:57:39 <jtandy> Topic: Review (& hopefully resolve) open BP issues in GitHub
15:58:41 <jtandy> Topic: Review open public comments
15:59:55 <joshlieberman> jtandy: josh, andrea, bill still have outstanding items to resolve in github.
16:00:24 <billroberts> thanks - sorry got to go, bye!
16:00:48 <joshlieberman> bye
16:01:14 <ClemensPortele> thanks, bye!
16:01:15 <Linda> bye
16:01:28 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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16:01:50 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes v2
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