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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

09 Mar 2017

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, Richard, Steve, JcK
Regrets
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


trackbot, prepare teleconference

<scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-553?

<trackbot> action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard to develop a pros/cons document describing the different bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553

action-578?

<trackbot> action-578 -- Richard Ishida to Write to aharon and mati about the whatwg bidi text issue -- due 2016-12-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/578

close action-578

<trackbot> Closed action-578.

action-590?

<trackbot> action-590 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on html issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/590

close action-590

<trackbot> Closed action-590.

action-591?

<trackbot> action-591 -- Richard Ishida to Re-check letter spacing in css-text issues for closure -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/591

action-594?

<trackbot> action-594 -- Addison Phillips to Reply to marcos caceres email and list his question as a topic for next teleconference -- due 2017-03-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/594

close action-594

<trackbot> Closed action-594.

Info Share

jck: IESG signed off on new URN document
... shouldn't have any i18n issues of interest to this group
... take it off our queue

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/layout

richard: working on the site a bit
... one thing I did today-ish
... was updated layout and typography page
... maybe change title to "requirements"??
... includes sections about LREQs, gap analysis docs, etc.

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International

richard: improved I think
... get help panel split by types of folks

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/help#contentauth

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/about

richard: check the contact us part of that
... points to home page for detail
... no longer has long section on mailing lists
... get from WG home pages

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

richard: WG home page, has general links

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/

richard: type samples repo is now is ready for advertising to others

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/type-samples

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/type-samples/

richard: that's the github and the index

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/

richard: did some work on it yesterday
... beefed up significantly
... added a few extra sections like numbers and text
... and (something) style
... links to customer information
... type samples link

Radar Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: added some stuff to specdev
... might want to check
... vertical text and ruby and typographic stuff
... threw in a few controversial things, added text to mention that

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1

richard: put a link to article pipeline, may want to review from time to time

addison: will add to our agenda

What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition

follow UK time

<scribe> ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-596 - Adjust the agenda to reflect use of uk time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].

publish the vertical text article

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en

richard: have one remaining comment on way arabic text runs
... plan to punt to CSS
... resolve to publish?

<Steve_Atkin> +1

+1

<Klensin> +1

<r12a> +1

<david> +1

so resolved

<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-597 - Publish vertical text article [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].

Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup contexts

richard: he's asking if they should have dir properties in json
... don't think we've taken a final decision on that

addison: definitely not, since we're working on that

richard: link to existing document

addison: "yes, you need direction, but don't have a finished cookbook yet"

richard: tend to think separate field is the simpler thing if acceptable

<scribe> ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-598 - Respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].

new justification-by-script article

richard: take to wide review, fantasai is happy with that

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en

any objections to wide review?

(chair hears none)

so resolved

<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-599 - Publish justification for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].

TTML (and other) review

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/358

writing mode stuff based on old version of writing-modes

has sideways-lr and sideways-rl

rotates the box rather than changing the layout

make matching css the comment

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/357

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/359

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/356

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/355

(wrong link)

http://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-textCombine

addison: could be used with upright to make tate-chu-yoko, but you need to rotate the text still?

richard: vertical text article has an example
... in CSS knows that's what you're trying to do

needs clarification

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/354

https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/275

Encoding refresh needed

<scribe> ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-600 - Prepare and submit encoding refresh [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].

richard: generate in bikeshed and submit through echidna
... need to look at changes

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action05]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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