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12:23:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
12:23:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
12:23:16 <trackbot> Meeting: Permissions and Obligations Expression Working Group Teleconference
12:23:16 <trackbot> Date: 27 February 2017
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12:23:37 <renato> RRSAgent, make logs public
12:23:50 <renato> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20170227
12:24:05 <renato> present+ renato
12:24:09 <renato> Chair: renato
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12:30:14 <renato> Regrets: Sabrina
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12:31:16 <michaelS> present+
12:32:01 <benws_> present+
12:32:23 <benws_> Sorry guys but I'll have to leave in 30 mins
12:32:32 <CarolineB> present+ CarolineB
12:32:47 <ivan> present+
12:33:13 <Serena> scribenick: Serena
12:33:18 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2017/02/13-poe-minutes.html
12:33:28 <Serena> Proposal: approve last meeting minutes
12:33:51 <Serena> Minutes approved
12:34:03 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Deliverables
12:34:28 <Serena> renato: we are collecting potential groups and individual to ask for review and feedback
12:34:40 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Email_Template
12:34:48 <Serena> … the email template has been sent around
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12:35:12 <Serena> … is there anyone having comments on the text?
12:35:14 <Serena> q?
12:35:17 <Brian_Ulicny> present+
12:35:36 <Serena> … I'd allow people to add issues on github directly
12:35:49 <Serena> … should we set a deadline for the feedback?
12:35:57 <simonstey> present+
12:36:00 <Serena> q?
12:36:03 <ivan> q+
12:36:25 <Serena> ack ivan
12:36:39 <Serena> ivan: we need to give them as much as time we can
12:37:18 <Serena> … the F2F is mid-may so I'd say end of April and then two weeks to set most urgent issues by github and emails
12:37:37 <phila> present+
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12:38:43 <Serena> renato: April 30th then
12:38:49 <Serena> q?
12:38:56 <simonstey> regrets+ Sabrina
12:39:05 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Deliverables
12:39:21 <Serena> … here there is the list of people
12:39:21 <victor> present+ victor
12:40:08 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/charter#coordination
12:41:35 <Serena> phila: W3C wide means several groups, I'll send the email to these groups
12:41:56 <phila> action: phila to contact groups listed at https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/charter#coordination
12:41:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-42 - Contact groups listed at https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/charter#coordination [on Phil Archer - due 2017-03-06].
12:42:45 <Serena> phila: the attention we need from internationalization is clear
12:42:55 <simonstey> a lot
12:42:57 <Serena> ivan: do we have any property whose value is text?
12:43:07 <simonstey> all descriptions
12:43:11 <Serena> … then internationalization comes in
12:43:36 <simonstey> e.g. http://w3c.github.io/poe/vocab/#term-Assertion
12:43:43 <Serena> q?
12:45:08 <Serena> renato: ODRL I'll take care of sending it, IPTC is up to Michael
12:45:33 <Serena> ivan: for BSIG send an email to Bill
12:46:56 <Serena> renato: the other contact persons are in the list. EDRLab - Michael. Is there any reasonable contact with CC?
12:47:28 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/PandOE/results
12:47:32 <Serena> … AC Review members
12:47:46 <Serena> … what's the best way to handle this?
12:47:58 <CarolineB> I should be able to dig out someone from CC but at the policy rather than technical end. If htat's any help?
12:48:51 <Serena> phila: anyone who showed an interest should be contacted
12:49:40 <Serena> renato: any other group to be contacted?
12:50:15 <Serena> … the second part is the actual horizontal review
12:50:49 <simonstey> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/tools/
12:51:36 <Serena> phila: accessibility, I don't think there are issues here
12:52:09 <Serena> ivan: in my experience it may happen that people in the accessibility group may comment on the accessibility of the documents
12:53:29 <renato> https://www.w3.org/International/techniques/developing-specs?collapse
12:53:34 <Serena> renato: internationalization, there is a questionnaire
12:54:23 <Serena> … do we simply fill in the questionnaire and then we send it to them, is that the process?
12:55:32 <Serena> ivan: fill in the questionnaire and then contact them to tell that we did it
12:55:37 <renato> https://w3ctag.github.io/security-questionnaire/
12:55:43 <Serena> renato: security, another questionnaire
12:55:59 <Serena> … it seems there is not much for us
12:56:14 <Serena> … is there any security guy here?
12:56:44 <benws_> Sorry guys - got to fly
12:57:26 <simonstey> +q
12:57:31 <Serena> q?
12:57:38 <Serena> ack simonstey
12:57:56 <Serena> renato: there is privacy section and a security one
12:58:27 <Serena> simonstey: the answers is what we put in the related section in our document
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12:59:37 <Serena> q?
12:59:58 <Serena> phila: we're not covering access control so these questions do not apply for us
13:00:07 <Serena> renato: how do we proceed ?
13:00:35 <renato> http://gregnorc.github.io/ping-privacy-questions/
13:00:37 <Serena> renato: I'll contact them
13:00:59 <Serena> … privacy, we need to look at this in more details
13:01:44 <renato> https://www.w3.org/TR/activitystreams-core/#privacy
13:04:38 <Serena> … the privacy questionnaire has to be answered and then look at them as a group and if we are satisfied with them we can send them.
13:04:51 <Serena> … and that's it for the horizontal reviews
13:05:00 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20170227
13:05:33 <Serena> … questions or comments on the review process?
13:05:36 <Serena> q?
13:06:15 <Serena> renato: we can move to other business
13:06:18 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/track/actions/open
13:06:23 <Serena> … there are a number of open actions
13:07:27 <Serena> … please close the actions when you're done with it
13:07:29 <phila> q+
13:07:33 <Serena> q?
13:07:40 <Serena> ack phila
13:07:54 <phila> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/track/issues/raised Raised issues
13:08:00 <Serena> phila: there are two raised issues at this stage and it's remarkable
13:08:11 <Serena> … they're quite old
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13:08:29 <Serena> renato: we started raising issues on GitHub
13:08:34 <Serena> q?
13:08:52 <Serena> … I have to have a look, I think that issue #11 is fine
13:09:07 <Serena> … but issue #10 I'm not sure
13:09:18 <simonstey> issue-10
13:09:19 <trackbot> issue-10 -- What does it mean for permissions/prohibitions/duties if their constraint(s) are (un)satisfied? -- raised
13:09:19 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/track/issues/10
13:09:21 <Serena> … we can move these two issues on Github to track them
13:09:32 <Serena> q?
13:09:38 <smyles> present+
13:09:48 <Serena> Topic: F2F meeting in London
13:10:15 <Serena> renato: do we have any logistics? Ben will provide more details soon.
13:10:24 <Serena> … if you plan to come please add your name?
13:10:51 <Serena> … we will look at the feedback we get and we will review the documents accordingly
13:11:31 <Serena> q?
13:11:49 <Serena> renato: any other business for today's call?
13:12:11 <Serena> … five days of meetings for some people
13:12:22 <Serena> … rights management conference
13:13:33 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
13:13:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/27-poe-minutes.html phila
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