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17:36:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
17:36:24 <trackbot> Date: 23 February 2017
17:36:47 <joanie> chair: Joanmarie_Diggs
17:36:58 <joanie> RRSAgent, make log public
17:37:03 <joanie> agenda?
17:37:09 <joanie> agenda: this
17:37:16 <joanie> agenda+ Testable statements - Progress update
17:37:22 <joanie> agenda+ ATTA progress updates
17:37:31 <joanie> agenda+ Getting started on manual testing
17:37:36 <joanie> agenda: be done
17:37:46 <joanie> agenda?
17:38:00 <joanie> Regrets: Léonie_Watson, James_Nurthen, Bryan_Garaventa
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17:59:50 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
18:00:04 <Stefan> present+
18:01:16 <MichielBijl> present+
18:01:28 <janina> present+
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18:03:49 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 1
18:03:49 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Testable statements - Progress update" taken up [from joanie]
18:04:18 <MichielBijl> scribe: MichielBijl
18:04:35 <joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements
18:04:41 <joanie> "volunteer name here": 131
18:04:45 <joanie> "stefan": 37
18:05:17 <MichielBijl> ^ list of people and their assigned objects
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18:06:02 <MichielBijl> JD: We need to get volunteers for those 131 items
18:06:09 <clown> present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
18:06:09 <joanie> Updated Milestones: https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project
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18:06:32 <MichielBijl> We’ll hit PR Feb 2017
18:06:37 <MichielBijl> That’s like, now…
18:06:55 <MichielBijl> MC: That’s the latest milestone that we discussed and agreed to
18:07:07 <MichielBijl> If it raises concerns if we don’t meet them
18:07:24 <MichielBijl> Should tell Philipe if we’re not going to meet them
18:08:00 <MichielBijl> s/Philipe/Philippe/
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18:08:50 <MichielBijl> JD: If you can volunteer for part of these testable statements that be great
18:08:57 <MichielBijl> We could work together on the same issue
18:08:58 <jongund_> present+ jongund
18:09:13 <MichielBijl> If someone wrote like the markup for issues
18:10:15 <MichielBijl> SS: I see that the “has tests” is still in the document
18:10:30 <MichielBijl> JD: Joseph went through it
18:10:55 <MichielBijl> JS: I’m working my way through them when I can
18:11:12 <MichielBijl> JD: Reason we keep flags in there, it’s kind of a hack for lack of a better word for it
18:11:34 <MichielBijl> Anything with parenthesis basically says “Don’t generate actual tests”
18:12:04 <MichielBijl> MB: Is it just writing mark-up?
18:12:05 <joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#combobox_haspopup_unspecified
18:12:59 <joanie> https://www.w3.org/wiki/ARIA_1.1_Testable_Statements#aria-haspopup
18:14:54 <MichielBijl> SS: The code part is for humans?
18:15:04 <MichielBijl> They read and do a manual test based on that?
18:15:20 <MichielBijl> The next part is for machines?
18:15:26 <MichielBijl> JD: Partly correct
18:15:39 <MichielBijl> The first part gets pulled into Shane’s tool
18:16:31 <MichielBijl> The part that surrounds the code is not processed
18:17:46 <MichielBijl> zakim, take up next item
18:17:46 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ATTA progress updates" taken up [from joanie]
18:18:02 <MichielBijl> JG: We installed WPT on Windows
18:18:09 <MichielBijl> Build a simple adapter
18:18:17 <MichielBijl> We can now get the information from WPT
18:18:47 <joanie> scribe: joanie
18:18:58 <joanie> Regarding the Mac, I now have the core accessibility API stuff down. I have local code which can print accessibility trees, listen for accessibility events, locate specific elements, get the desired properties of a specified element, etc. In other words, I am able to do the core functionality needed in an ATTA. And this works both with Safari and Chrome Canary. The one blocking bit is that Chrome Canary
18:19:04 <joanie> doesn't expose the HTML id attribute, and we're counting on that attribute being present to locate the element specified in the testable statements. I've emailed Dominic Mazzoni (Google accessibility developer) and told him how Safari exposes it. He said he'd see about doing the same in Chrome so we can do automated testing there. My next step is to turn what I've got into an actual ATTA which works with
18:19:10 <joanie> WPT. I think that will be pretty easy as the Mac code I've done is in Python 3 and the Linux ATTA I've written which is fully functional is also written in Python 3.
18:19:13 <joanie> scribe: MichielBijl
18:19:34 <MichielBijl> JD: **Correction**: text that prefixed code is processed by Shane’s tool.
18:20:13 <MichielBijl> s/Regarding the Mac/JD: Regarding the Mac/
18:20:33 <MichielBijl> RRSAgent, make minutes
18:20:33 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/23-aria-minutes.html MichielBijl
18:21:03 <MichielBijl> zakim, take up item 1
18:21:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Testable statements - Progress update" taken up [from joanie]
18:21:10 <joanie> https://github.com/Spec-Ops/web-platform-tests/blob/aria-atta-support/wai-aria/tools/make_tests.pl#L225
18:22:24 <MichielBijl> zakim, take up next item
18:22:24 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ATTA progress updates" taken up [from joanie]
18:22:30 <MichielBijl> zakim, close item 2
18:22:30 <Zakim> agendum 2, ATTA progress updates, closed
18:22:31 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
18:22:31 <Zakim> 3. Getting started on manual testing [from joanie]
18:22:41 <MichielBijl> zakim, take up item 3
18:22:41 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Getting started on manual testing" taken up [from joanie]
18:24:16 <MichielBijl> JD: Any questions on this?
18:25:06 <MichielBijl> Thank you all, that’s a wrap
18:25:26 <MichielBijl> RRSAgent, make minutes
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