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20:58:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
20:58:07 <trackbot> Date: 21 February 2017
20:58:35 <kerry> present+
20:58:44 <tidoust> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web SSN Sub Group Teleconference
20:59:03 <kerry> regrets + scottsimmons
20:59:11 <tidoust> Present+ Francois
20:59:14 <kerry> regrets+ scottsimmons
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21:00:27 <mlefranc> Scribe: mlefranc
21:00:31 <ahaller2> scribe: mlefranc
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21:03:50 <ahaller2> topic: approve last week’s minutes https://www.w3.org/2017/02/14-sdwssn-minutes
21:04:00 <ahaller2> +1
21:04:01 <KJanowic> +1
21:04:01 <mlefranc> +1
21:04:03 <RaulGarciaCastro> +1
21:04:04 <DanhLePhuoc> +1
21:04:09 <roba> +1
21:04:19 <ahaller2> topic: patent call https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
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21:04:40 <KJanowic> present+ KJanowic
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21:05:01 <KJanowic> Armin, do we have a scribe?
21:05:07 <mlefranc> scribe: mlefranc
21:05:12 <SimonCox> present+ SimonCox
21:05:20 <mlefranc> topic: Observable Property
21:05:21 <ahaller2> topic: Vote on PROPOSAL: Observable Property in sosa, Property in ssn, old SSN Property equivalent with ssn:Property as of Option 6 (a derivation of Option 5 several people have already indicated their +1) on wiki: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Property_and_Observable_Property
21:05:46 <mlefranc> ahaller2: there is a wiki, long discussion in the list
21:05:53 <mlefranc> ... some discussion on option 5
21:06:25 <ahaller2> q?
21:06:28 <KJanowic> q+
21:06:36 <mlefranc> ... as a consequence, new option 6 now,
21:06:39 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:07:10 <roba> q+
21:07:40 <tidoust> mlefranc: Options 5 and 6 are not equivalent. In the new one, ssn:Property is a super class of sosa:ObservableProperty
21:07:54 <SimonCox> q+
21:08:34 <SimonCox> q-
21:08:41 <ahaller2> ack roba
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21:08:54 <mlefranc> ahaller2: in one option, the old ssn is an equivalent  class to sosa:ObservableProperty whereas in option 6, it'"s equivalent to ssn:Property
21:10:00 <ahaller2> q?
21:10:02 <mlefranc> roba: question about alignment between the old ssn and the new ssn
21:10:09 <ahaller2> q?
21:10:09 <kerry> q+
21:10:14 <ahaller2> ack kerry
21:10:29 <mlefranc> ahaller2: yes, that's the purpose of ssnx, to align the old ssn with the new
21:10:53 <mlefranc> kerry: isn't there some changes here, skos:definition instead of rdfs:comment
21:11:06 <SimonCox> q+
21:11:50 <tidoust> mlefranc: I would suggest to use something more precise like SKOS properties
21:12:10 <KJanowic> yes, this is a different issue
21:12:20 <mlefranc> mlefranc: explains why I propose to use skos:definition, skos:example, skos:note whenever appropriate
21:12:20 <kerry> q+
21:12:21 <ahaller2> q?
21:12:24 <ahaller2> ack SimonCox
21:12:43 <mlefranc> ahaller2: that is not about the vote, that's another issue
21:13:14 <KJanowic> q+
21:13:26 <joshlieberman> My understanding is that the annotation possibilities are not mutually exclusive.
21:13:27 <mlefranc> SimonCox: we aready discussed that one month ago: we proposed to use skos concepts without importing the skos ontology itself
21:13:29 <ahaller2> q?
21:13:31 <ahaller2> ack kerry
21:13:39 <KJanowic> lets not rediscuss the use of skos:example, please!
21:13:41 <joshlieberman> Nor do they have reasoning or consistency implications.
21:13:59 <mlefranc> ahaller2: we did not make any decision on the use of skos:definition, this will discussed later
21:14:18 <KJanowic> q+
21:14:25 <mlefranc> kerry: there lacks some rdfs:comment here
21:15:15 <KJanowic> q+
21:15:26 <mlefranc> ... there is new triples in ssnx that were not in the old ssn, like rdfs:isDefinedBy, ... overall I'm ok with this, but all these little changes here I'm not necessarily ok with all of them
21:15:46 <KJanowic> q+
21:15:49 <mlefranc> q+
21:15:51 <joshlieberman> ^annotation possibilities^annotation properties
21:16:06 <ahaller2> q?
21:16:09 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:16:17 <mlefranc> ahaller2: let's vote one these options first, discuss the implementation later
21:16:33 <ahaller2> q?
21:16:38 <ahaller2> ack mlefranc
21:17:14 <KJanowic> we are voting on the idea/layout/conceptual framework, not on the particular resulting (implementation) code.
21:17:18 <ahaller2> q?
21:17:22 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: Observable Property in sosa, Property in ssn, old SSN Property equivalent with ssn:Property as of Option 6 (a derivation of Option 5 several people have already indicated their +1) on wiki: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Property_and_Observable_Property
21:17:24 <mlefranc> KJanowic: let's be clear: we are just voting on the idea here, not the exact terms
21:17:33 <mlefranc> +1
21:17:36 <ahaller2> +1
21:17:36 <KJanowic> 0
21:17:40 <joshlieberman> Question: does Option 6 include sosa:ObservableProperty subclassOf ssn:property?
21:17:44 <kerry> +1
21:17:49 <SimonCox> +1
21:17:50 <DanhLePhuoc> +1
21:17:50 <ahaller2> yes
21:17:51 <mlefranc> yes
21:17:52 <roba> +1
21:18:06 <mlefranc> this triple is in ssn.ttl, not sosa.ttl
21:18:17 <RaulGarciaCastro> +1
21:18:21 <joshlieberman> +1
21:18:52 <SimonCox> See ssn.ttl snippet in https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Property_and_Observable_Property#Option_6:_Observable_Property_in_sosa.2C_Property_in_ssn.2C_old_SSN_Property_equivalent_with_ssn:Property
21:19:02 <mlefranc> ahaller2: confirms, it's in ssn.ttl, not in sosa
21:19:06 <ahaller2> RESOLVED: Observable Property in sosa, Property in ssn, old SSN Property equivalent with ssn:Property as of Option 6 (a derivation of Option 5 several people have already indicated their +1) on wiki: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Property_and_Observable_Property
21:19:13 <KJanowic> "sosa:ObservableProperty rdfs:subClassOf ssn:Property ." is in option 6
21:19:24 <tidoust> RRSAgent, draft minutes
21:19:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/21-sdwssn-minutes.html tidoust
21:19:30 <KJanowic> q+
21:20:09 <ahaller2> ACTION: mlefranc to include the changes for ObservableProperty in SSN, SSNX and SOSA
21:20:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-268 - Include the changes for observableproperty in ssn, ssnx and sosa [on Maxime Lefrançois - due 2017-02-28].
21:20:10 <KJanowic> Can I jump in here for a moment?
21:20:10 <mlefranc> ACTION: Maxime to implement option 6 in ssn and  sosa
21:20:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-269 - Implement option 6 in ssn and  sosa [on Maxime Lefrançois - due 2017-02-28].
21:20:20 <ahaller2> topic: Resolving of several of the questions in the Actuation proposal for SOSA/SSN as of discussion on wiki: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Actuation_in_SOSA
21:20:20 <KJanowic> q?
21:20:58 <KJanowic> [see above, can I say something wrt to observableProperty]
21:21:20 <mlefranc> subtopic: question 2 https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/index.php?title=Actuation&section=3
21:21:42 <KJanowic> q+
21:21:48 <ahaller2> sosa:ActuatableProperty
21:21:53 <ahaller2> q?
21:21:55 <kerry> q+
21:22:01 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:22:16 <mlefranc> KJanowic: I wanted  to mention in the previous topic
21:22:34 <mlefranc> ... I wanted  to be sure that there will be no change to sosa
21:22:52 <mlefranc> ahaller2: if it's already like this, there will be no change
21:23:03 <KJanowic> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/index.php?title=Actuation
21:23:56 <mlefranc> KJanowic: I changed some options,
21:24:37 <mlefranc> # (sorry, I didn't get all of you said jano)
21:24:42 <ahaller2> q?
21:24:46 <ahaller2> ack kerry
21:24:46 <KJanowic> Example updates, code updates, figure updated to change the property and class name
21:25:22 <mlefranc> kerry: actuatable is better than actuable, is more used
21:25:33 <mlefranc> ... it's still not an english word
21:25:38 <KJanowic> @mlefranc:  SOSA:actuatedProperty changed to SOSA:actsOnProperty and SOSA:ActuableProperty changed to SOSA:ActuatableProperty
21:25:45 <KJanowic> q+
21:26:01 <mlefranc> ... we have other words that occur in other ontologies, that may be better. They are listed in  the wiki
21:26:14 <KJanowic> language is in flux kerry
21:26:18 <mlefranc> ahaller2: it's not in all dictionaries, but in some of them
21:26:23 <ahaller2> q?
21:26:27 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:26:38 <mlefranc> ... let's propose it first, and see how the group reacts
21:26:59 <ahaller2> q?
21:27:07 <kerry> q+
21:27:13 <mlefranc> KJanowic: it's usual to create new technical words such as "triplification", I believe actuable is a good property name
21:27:35 <kerry> q+
21:27:54 <ahaller2> ack kerry
21:28:24 <mlefranc> kerry: I'd like to suggest actuatable property
21:28:29 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: Use of sosa:ActuatableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation
21:28:50 <KJanowic> +1
21:29:04 <ahaller2> +1
21:29:16 <kerry> -1
21:29:17 <roba> +0
21:29:18 <mlefranc> 0
21:29:22 <DanhLePhuoc> 0
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21:29:34 <tidoust> s/I'd like to suggest actuatable property/I'd like to suggest actionable property, similar to what the Web of Things group is using/
21:29:34 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: Use of sosa:ActionableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation
21:29:34 <Raul> 0
21:29:38 <KJanowic> -1
21:29:44 <kerry> +1
21:29:48 <Raul> +1
21:29:51 <ahaller2> 0
21:30:04 <DanhLePhuoc> 0
21:30:14 <KJanowic> (I agree with the point just made)
21:30:19 <ahaller2> josh: -1
21:30:30 <mlefranc> so +1 on actuatable and -1 on actionable
21:30:34 <roba> -1
21:30:35 <SimonCox> q+
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21:30:58 <KJanowic> Simon has not voted, right?
21:30:59 <joshlieberman> present+ again
21:31:10 <ahaller2> sosa:ActuatableProperty 2 +1, 5 0, 1 -1
21:31:22 <roba> can we have a ref link for the def of actionable...
21:31:23 <SimonCox> Need to keep clear the distinction between its potential, and its actual role in an activity or event.
21:31:24 <joshlieberman> Actuatable +1
21:31:31 <SimonCox> Didn't follow Josh's argument
21:31:41 <ahaller2> sosa:ActionableProperty 2 +1, 3 0, 4 -1
21:31:42 <mlefranc> ahaller2: for Actuatable that's +3, 4*0 and -1
21:31:47 <KJanowic> q+
21:31:56 <ahaller2> ack SimonCox
21:31:59 <joshlieberman> Actionable implies that it promotes action, not that it is the object of action.
21:32:02 <mlefranc> ... for actionable, that's  +2, 3*0, -3
21:32:03 <roba> q+
21:32:17 <RaulGarciaCastro> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/actionable
21:33:37 <mlefranc> SimonCox: if we move back to observe and observable, observable is the potential of being observed, and observe is the existence of some situation where this actually occurs
21:33:40 <KJanowic> <ahaller2> sosa:ActuatableProperty 2 +1, 5 0, 1 -1 ---> should be  3x +1
21:34:32 <KJanowic> q+
21:34:38 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:34:39 <mlefranc> joshlieberman: actuable means that the property can be acted  upon ?
21:35:01 <mlefranc> ... whereas actuatable property means that the property can be acted upon
21:35:05 <ahaller2> q?
21:35:08 <ahaller2> ack roba
21:35:35 <mlefranc> q+
21:36:13 <ahaller2> ack mlefranc
21:36:22 <DanhLePhuoc> q+
21:37:20 <ahaller2> ack DanhLePhuoc
21:37:27 <tidoust> s/actuable means that the property can be acted  upon ?/actionable means that something external can act on the property to change its value/
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21:37:35 <mlefranc> ahaller2: Raul posted a wiki page where he compares how things are being modeled in WoT WG
21:38:12 <tidoust> s/whereas actuatable property means that the property can be acted upon/whereas actuatable property means that the value can change. Change comes from within, not from the external world/
21:38:36 <ahaller2> q?
21:38:41 <mlefranc> DanhLePhuoc: the WoT WG is just starting,  so they do not  use  fixed terms for the  moment, we should not 100% rely on their choices for our own worlk
21:38:51 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: Use of sosa:ActuatableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation
21:38:53 <KJanowic> +1
21:38:58 <SimonCox> +1
21:38:59 <ahaller2> +1
21:39:00 <kerry> 0
21:39:02 <joshlieberman_> +1
21:39:02 <roba> +1
21:39:07 <DanhLePhuoc> +1
21:39:08 <mlefranc> +1
21:39:17 <KJanowic> q+
21:39:25 <RaulGarciaCastro> 0 (can live with it)
21:39:25 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:39:39 <ahaller2> RESOLVED: Use of sosa:ActionableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation
21:40:02 <ahaller2> s/RESOLVED: Use of sosa:ActionableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation/RESOLVED: Use of sosa:ActuatableProperty for the class that is linked to an Actuation
21:40:22 <tidoust> RRSAgent, draft minutes
21:40:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/21-sdwssn-minutes.html tidoust
21:40:41 <ahaller2> see https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Actuation_in_SOSA
21:41:00 <mlefranc> KJanowic: we voted on the class Actuatable Property, but we now need to vote the property that links between an actuation and actuatableproperty
21:41:06 <ahaller2> proposal for sosa:actsOnProperty/sosa:isActedOnBy
21:41:10 <KJanowic> yes
21:41:14 <ahaller2> q?
21:41:19 <mlefranc> subtopic: question 3 in https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Actuation_in_SOSA#Question_3:_naming_of_the_link_between_Actuation_and_xxxProperty
21:41:29 <ahaller2> q?
21:41:32 <KJanowic> and then there is one important issue left to discuss where I really need your help
21:42:09 <ahaller2> q?
21:42:13 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: Use of sosa:actsOnProperty/sosa:isActedOnBy for connecting Actuation to ActuatableProperty
21:42:18 <KJanowic> +1
21:42:27 <ahaller2> +1
21:42:28 <mlefranc> +1
21:42:28 <SimonCox> +1
21:42:29 <kerry> +1
21:42:32 <DanhLePhuoc> +1
21:42:32 <joshlieberman_> +1
21:42:34 <roba> +1
21:42:38 <KJanowic> q+
21:42:44 <ahaller2> RESOLVED: Use of sosa:actsOnProperty/sosa:isActedOnBy for connecting Actuation to ActuatableProperty
21:42:48 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:43:25 <mlefranc> KJanowic: I'd like now to talk about the link from the class  actuator to the property that it acts on
21:43:51 <mlefranc> q+
21:44:34 <mlefranc> q?
21:44:36 <KJanowic> yes
21:44:50 <RaulGarciaCastro> +1
21:46:16 <ahaller2> q?
21:46:20 <ahaller2> ack mlefranc
21:46:25 <KJanowic> I would absolutely try to avoid that (having the same name for two totally different issues)
21:46:55 <KJanowic> q+
21:47:03 <tidoust> mlefranc: I do not see a problem with reusing the same name. actOnProperty from actuator to ActuatableProperty, and actedOnProperty from actuation to ActuatableProperty, perhaps?
21:47:23 <tidoust> ... Using present and past could be a solution there.
21:47:37 <KJanowic> Okay, lets  move on to Q4
21:47:47 <mlefranc> ACTION: mlefranc to add this  specific question in the wiki (question 10)
21:47:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-270 - Add this  specific question in the wiki (question 10) [on Maxime Lefrançois - due 2017-02-28].
21:47:48 <ahaller2> q?
21:47:50 <kerry> q+
21:47:52 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:47:59 <ahaller2> ack kerry
21:48:03 <KJanowic> I will add another question for this
21:48:54 <mlefranc> kerry: ssn has modeled potential observation,  whereas maxime now proposes past tense
21:49:10 <KJanowic> q+
21:49:17 <mlefranc> ... are we thinking now not about potential, but also record ?
21:49:44 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:49:49 <KJanowic> LELts follow the chair and move on to Q4
21:49:49 <mlefranc> mlefran: this is exactly my proposal
21:49:59 <mlefranc> subtopic: question 4:  https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Actuation_in_SOSA#Question_4:_naming_of_invoked.2FinvokedBy_vs_madeObservation.2F.3F.3F
21:50:34 <roba> must handle bith potential and result in a consistent way - so scope needs to be both IMHO
21:50:44 <mlefranc> KJanowic: vote 4 is simply to vote on what we have already in sosa
21:50:55 <mlefranc> ... use term trigger, or invoke
21:51:19 <ahaller2> q?
21:51:23 <mlefranc> ahaller2: I just added these properties, in Lisbon, now there  are more options, let's vote
21:51:38 <ahaller2> q?
21:51:43 <mlefranc> I like option 4
21:52:00 <joshlieberman_> option 4 for me
21:52:06 <KJanowic> I would be in favor of invikedBy but I would be okay with madeActuation
21:52:07 <Raul> q+
21:52:09 <kerry> I prefer option 1
21:52:14 <ahaller2> ack Raul
21:52:49 <KJanowic> sensor?
21:53:18 <KJanowic> q+
21:53:21 <mlefranc> option 3 is sosa:madeActuation/sosa:madeByActuator and sosa:madeObservation/sosa:madeBySensor
21:53:35 <mlefranc> I like option 4
21:53:43 <KJanowic> I would like to strongly object to this bundling
21:53:49 <roba> q+
21:53:54 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:53:55 <SimonCox> and comparable for sampling: madeSample/madeBySamplingDevice ?
21:54:26 <ahaller2> q?
21:54:30 <ahaller2> ack roba
21:54:34 <mlefranc> +1 for Simon
21:54:41 <Raul> q+
21:54:52 <mlefranc> roba: what about option 6, it's not exclusive with the other options
21:55:12 <ahaller2> q?
21:55:16 <ahaller2> ack Raul
21:55:16 <KJanowic> we didn't want to have subproperties in sosa
21:55:17 <SimonCox> or madeSamplingActivity/madeBySamplingDevice
21:55:27 <mlefranc> ahaller2: yes, that's a super property we could  additionally use also
21:55:37 <KJanowic> we are talking about actuation now,not observation
21:55:38 <KJanowic> q+
21:55:43 <ahaller2> sosa:madeActuation/sosa:actuationMadeBy
21:55:56 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
21:56:06 <mlefranc> ahaller2: we are only talking about actuation now
21:56:29 <SimonCox> (but we are making a sideways look at observation and sampling just to see if the patterns hold up)
21:56:49 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: sosa:madeActuation/sosa:actuationMadeBy for the property linking Actuation and the Actuator class
21:56:52 <KJanowic> @simonCox: yes, totally fine with that
21:56:56 <mlefranc> +1
21:57:02 <KJanowic> +1
21:57:08 <SimonCox> +1
21:57:08 <kerry> 0
21:57:10 <ahaller2> +1
21:57:12 <joshlieberman_> +1
21:57:13 <RaulGarciaCastro> -0.5 (I prefer actuatedBy)
21:57:14 <DanhLePhuoc> +1
21:57:19 <roba> +0
21:57:47 <KJanowic> @RaulGarciaCastro: also fine with me, maybe yours is even better
21:57:49 <kerry> +1 to Raul's comment -- can we reconsider?
21:57:54 <mlefranc> me too
21:58:02 <mlefranc> ok to reconsider
21:58:31 <KJanowic> q+
21:58:50 <ahaller2> PROPOSED: sosa:madeActuation/sosa:actuatedBy for the property linking Actuation and the Actuator class
21:59:00 <Raul> +1
21:59:13 <kerry> 0
21:59:19 <ahaller2> 0
21:59:20 <KJanowic> 0
21:59:23 <mlefranc> 0
21:59:25 <joshlieberman_> -1 sounds like what actuation does to actuatableProperty
21:59:32 <roba> 0
21:59:39 <KJanowic> @ahaller: can you make an action for me to implement the actuation changes before the meeting ends?
21:59:46 <kerry> sugest: actuated/actuatedBy
21:59:47 <mlefranc> actually yes, the domain of this property could be anything....
22:00:04 <KJanowic> no, we had a vote
22:00:18 <SimonCox> wordsmithing in a group is painful
22:00:32 <KJanowic> @simonCox: yes, and we had a vote
22:00:35 <KJanowic> q+
22:00:36 <ahaller2> RESOLVED: sosa:madeActuation/sosa:actuationMadeBy for the property linking Actuation and the Actuator class
22:00:44 <ahaller2> ack KJanowic
22:01:02 <mlefranc> KJanowic: please create an action for me to implement this in sosa.ttl
22:01:05 <SimonCox> When can we get to https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Alignment_to_O%26M and https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Sampling ? Both things I was tasked with and followed up on now in limbo. The former should be easy at least?
22:01:17 <ahaller2> ACTION: KJanowic to implement changes based on the RESOLVED proposals in SOSA
22:01:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-271 - Implement changes based on the resolved proposals in sosa [on Krzysztof Janowicz - due 2017-02-28].
22:01:26 <ahaller2> q?
22:01:46 <mlefranc> q+
22:02:07 <KJanowic> can we simply do 10min longer today?
22:02:13 <mlefranc> q-
22:02:58 <ahaller2> q?
22:03:06 <kerry> bye!
22:03:08 <ahaller2> bye
22:03:08 <Raul> BYe
22:03:09 <KJanowic> thanks, bye bye
22:03:10 <roba> bye
22:03:21 <mlefranc> # what is the command to generate the minutes  ?
22:03:34 <kerry> rrsagent, make logs public
22:03:35 <ahaller2> i will do it
22:03:39 <kerry> rrsagent, draft minutes
22:03:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/21-sdwssn-minutes.html kerry
22:03:52 <ahaller2> RRSAgent, make logs public
22:04:01 <ahaller2> RRSAgent, draft minutes
22:04:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/21-sdwssn-minutes.html ahaller2
22:04:01 <mlefranc> thanks !
22:04:08 <ahaller2> sorry kerry ;-)
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