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15:48:42 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
15:48:45 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
15:48:48 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:48:48 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
15:48:48 <trackbot> Date: 16 February 2017
15:48:48 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
15:48:49 <addison> Regrets: Felix, David
15:48:56 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:48:59 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
15:49:05 <addison> Scribe: Addison Phillips
15:50:15 <addison> urk... getting 401 on the member-i18n-core archive
15:50:58 <addison> agenda+ agenda
15:51:06 <addison> agenda+ Action Items
15:51:06 <addison> agenda+ Info Share
15:51:15 <addison> agenda+ RADAR and Active Work Review
15:51:24 <addison> agenda+ Charmod-Norm comments
15:51:42 <addison> agenda+ Definition of String in WHATWG
15:52:18 <addison> agenda+ An idea for a type sample repository
15:52:37 <addison> agenda+ Review open comments
15:53:40 <addison> agenda+ Do we need a ruby markup model
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16:03:55 <addison> agenda?
16:06:41 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:06:41 <Zakim> agendum 1. "agenda" taken up [from addison]
16:07:25 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:07:25 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
16:07:58 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
16:08:18 <addison> action-536?
16:08:18 <addison> close action-536
16:08:18 <trackbot> action-536 -- Richard Ishida to Publish predefined-counter-styles as a wg note -- due 2016-06-30 -- OPEN
16:08:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/536
16:08:18 <trackbot> Closed action-536.
16:08:21 <addison> action-588?
16:08:21 <trackbot> action-588 -- Addison Phillips to File additional tickets for support of predefined counter styles against remaining browsers -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN
16:08:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/588
16:08:26 <addison> close action-588
16:08:26 <trackbot> Closed action-588.
16:09:21 <addison> action-593?
16:09:21 <trackbot> action-593 -- Addison Phillips to Add jck as point man when adding slim to review radar -- due 2017-02-16 -- OPEN
16:09:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/593
16:09:56 <addison> agenda?
16:10:14 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
16:10:59 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
16:10:59 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Review open comments" taken up [from addison]
16:11:17 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
16:11:51 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/324
16:14:22 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/311
16:14:47 <addison> richard: answer is a little vague; a character or a grapheme cluster
16:14:54 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/313
16:15:09 <addison> richard: slightly bigger thing
16:15:23 <addison> .. using styling to do mapping of semantics, think you should use markup for that
16:15:57 <addison> ... model may be from xsl:fo, not designed for human consumption
16:16:25 <addison> ... really want to put semantics into inline markup
16:17:36 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/315
16:18:13 <addison> richard: they show two bits of complex ruby but it's just two group rub
16:18:38 <addison> ... better example would be mono for semantics and group for pronunciation
16:18:54 <addison> ... want to see if they support these cases
16:19:12 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/316
16:19:35 <addison> richard: no rules about how to handle mismatch in number of elements
16:19:45 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/314
16:20:04 <addison> richard: thinking of not sending this
16:20:14 <addison> ... they're using ruby annotation spec as their markup model
16:20:18 <addison> ... rather than html model
16:20:22 <addison> ... less clear cut than that
16:20:28 <addison> ... hard to figure out what is in or out
16:20:34 <addison> ... nto quite ruby annotation
16:21:09 <addison> ... but actually, maybe ruby annotation isn't necessarily all bad
16:21:18 <addison> ... maybe we need a new version?
16:21:33 <addison> ... we've had a bunch of folks like this trying to "invent" ruby markup
16:24:00 <addison> ... don't want to send now, but some significant work to do there
16:24:17 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/317
16:28:16 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/318
16:28:59 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/319
16:29:48 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/320
16:30:59 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/325
16:31:36 <addison> richard: might want to stick on it the warning about ja or zh so fonts can default well
16:31:41 <addison> addison: agreed
16:31:42 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/326
16:33:48 <addison> addison: may be obselete because tts:direciton
16:33:54 <addison> ... but metadata?
16:34:01 <addison> richard: have a similar comment
16:34:11 <addison> ... #345
16:41:47 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/327
16:42:03 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/331
16:42:18 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/332
16:44:05 <addison> what is the impact on line height
16:44:18 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/333
16:44:48 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/334
16:45:44 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/335
16:46:15 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/337
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16:50:20 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/340
16:50:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
16:50:39 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/341
16:51:29 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/342
16:52:40 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/343
16:53:04 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/328
16:54:34 <addison_> richard: in direction section point to unicodeBidi
16:54:53 <addison_> ... will change
16:55:08 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/344
16:55:28 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/345
16:56:11 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/330
16:57:17 <addison_> should have a question about writing-mode coercing direction: we think it should not do so but xsl might imply that it does
17:01:31 <addison_> addison: you're right
17:01:44 <addison_> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/346
17:01:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
17:11:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
17:20:44 <addison_> zakim, bye
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17:20:50 <addison_> rrsagent, set logs world
17:20:56 <addison_> rrsagent, make minutes
17:20:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
17:21:03 <addison_> Present: Addison, Richard, Steve
17:21:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/16-i18n-minutes.html addison_
17:21:12 <addison_> rrsagent, bye
17:21:12 <RRSAgent> I see no action items