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13:02:12 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Dave_Raggett, Kunihiko_Toumura, Takuki_Kamiya, Tony_Homer
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13:04:47 <dsr__> scribenick: dsr
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13:06:11 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#Agenda
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13:06:42 <dsr__> Quick Updates
13:06:43 <dsr__> Santa Clara F2F
13:06:44 <dsr__> Report
13:06:46 <dsr__> Finalize Düsseldorf F2F
13:06:47 <dsr__> Technical
13:06:49 <dsr__> New repositories
13:06:50 <dsr__> Editors briefing
13:06:51 <dsr__> Communications TF
13:06:52 <dsr__> Agenda for Next WebConf
13:07:11 <kaz> i/Quick/Topics:/
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13:07:52 <kaz> present+ Zoltan_Kis
13:09:00 <dsr__> We welcome Tony Homer from Intel who was invited to this call by Michael McCool.
13:09:23 <tony--> Thank you
13:10:38 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Main_WoT_WebConf#15_Feb_2017
13:11:08 <dsr__> Matthias starts the meeting and asks if there are any quick updates. [no one speaks up]
13:11:29 <dsr__> Konica Minolta were due to talk today, but asked for a one week postponement.
13:12:15 <dsr__> Similarly, I am trying to arrange a slot for Fernando Serena to present on the UPM work on a WoT ontology
13:12:28 <mkovatsc> q?
13:12:47 <dsr__> Topic: Santa Clara F2F report
13:12:47 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/02/06-09-wot-minutes.html draft Santa Clara f2f minutes
13:13:10 <dsr__> Matthias: I posted a high level summary of the outcome from the meeting.
13:13:46 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2017Feb/att-0015/2017_F2F-Next.pdf Matthias' slides
13:14:29 <dsr__> Mathias summarises the summary
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13:16:13 <dsr__> We’ve invited Frank to join Kajimoto-san for the servient architecture document.
13:17:10 <dsr__> For the thing description WG spec we have Sebastian and as editors
13:18:45 <kaz> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka, Kazuaki_Nimura, Takeshi_Yamada, Victor_Charpenay
13:19:27 <dsr__> s/and as/ and Taki as/
13:21:34 <dsr__> Matthias continues with his summary of the slides for the various task forces
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13:22:21 <dsr__> The scripting spec will be edited by Johannes, Zoltan and Nimura-san
13:22:54 <dsr__> For the binding templates the editors are Matthias and Uday (pending confirmation)
13:24:37 <dsr__> The security task force won’t produce normative specs but will support the other task forces. We have a charter in github and now need to recruit experts to help with the work.
13:25:03 <dsr__> We also expect to seek help via liaisons including the IETF
13:28:23 <dsr__> Matthias continues with the Interest Group task force plans
13:29:56 <dsr__> The Linked Data and Semantic Processing task force charter - we’re seeking feedback on the charter over the next two weeks
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13:33:26 <dsr__> Matthias walks us through the status of the various liaisons
13:34:34 <dsr__> This includes reaching out to the OPC for their work on OPC-UA which includes a graph modelling language analogous to RDF
13:35:40 <dsr__> We’re working with Industrie 4.0 on defining a demonstrator and hope to bring this to the next Plugfest
13:36:13 <dsr__> OPC is also involved in I4.0 and we’re hoping for a synergy
13:36:57 <McCool> q+
13:37:24 <dsr__> Matthias is looking for collaboration with the T2TRG in respect to hypermedia controls and the potential relationship to actions and error handling
13:38:17 <dsr__> Michael McCool is talk with the OpenFog consortium which could prove relevant to our work.
13:38:38 <dsr__> Topic: upcoming face to face meetings
13:39:10 <dsr__> The next one is 15-19 May in Osaka, Japan
13:40:08 <dsr__> We need to add details to the wiki and open a registration form.
13:40:38 <dsr__> Kaz will set up a call with the meeting hosts and include the IG/WG co-chairs
13:41:05 <kaz> action: kaz to generate wiki/registration site for the Ohsaka meeting, and set up local organizing meeting including the host and the co-Chairs
13:41:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-101 - Generate wiki/registration site for the ohsaka meeting, and set up local organizing meeting including the host and the co-chairs [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2017-02-22].
13:41:17 <dsr__> The following face to face is in July in Dusseldorf, Germany hosted by Lemonbeat
13:42:36 <dsr__> The poll results suggest 9-13 July
13:43:07 <dsr__> This is timed to predece the IETF meeting
13:43:18 <dsr__> s/predece/precede/
13:43:50 <dsr__> The final meeting this year is 6-10 November in Burlingame, Calfornia as part of TPAC
13:44:01 <dsr__> The following weekend is the IETF
13:45:37 <dsr__> For 2018, we hope to co-locate with a security conference and perhaps the IETF in London, and a meeting in China
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13:47:20 <kaz> q+
13:47:36 <kaz> present+ Michael_McCool
13:48:02 <dsr__> For Osaka, we aim to have the RDF model for thing descriptions and editors draft for the WG specs.
13:48:39 <dsr__> For Dusseldorf, a draft test suite and Internet Drafts with security concepts for IETF review
13:49:13 <dsr__> For TPAC in November, release candidates for first public working drafts for the WG
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13:49:56 <dsr__> We hope to release W3C Candidate Recommendations by December 2018
13:49:59 <mkovatsc> q?
13:50:01 <dsr__> ack Mic
13:50:06 <dsr__> ack Mc
13:50:37 <dsr__> Michael: I will be attending the T2TRG meeting in Amsterdam, any one else?
13:50:49 <dsr__> Matthias: I will attend
13:51:46 <dsr__> Matthias talks about some of the IETF security groups we should liaise with
13:54:08 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/12/wot-wg-2016.html#deliverables WoT WG Charter
13:54:09 <dsr__> Michael has been talking with people inside Intel on the W3C security task force, but so far no takers as everyone is already busy with other work
13:54:21 <dsr__> ack kaz
13:54:53 <dsr__> Kaz: the WG charter places expectations for early publication of the architecture deliverable, so we need to make that happen
13:55:28 <dsr__> I think the due date is June
13:56:01 <dsr__> Matthias: I will update the roadmap accordingly and Kaz can put this up on the website
13:56:37 <dsr__> Topic: Github repositories for the WG
13:56:49 <mkovatsc> q?
13:57:08 <dsr__> Kaz has created one repository for each WG deliverable and given the editors update rights
13:57:26 <mkovatsc> https://ethz.doodle.com/poll/dabycy4zdewtwqtd
13:57:54 <dsr__> This is a poll for the editors to pick a joint slot for coordination
13:58:34 <dsr__> The aim is to train editors on the W3C echidina tool chain for spec publication
13:59:37 <McCool> Q+
13:59:46 <dsr__> ack Mc
13:59:47 <kaz> i/ethz/@@@links to the repos/
14:00:18 <dsr__> Michael: there is interest in US people attending the call, but the current slot is too early.
14:00:50 <dsr__> We’re short of US participation so this matters, and perhaps we can alternatve calls to even out the pain
14:01:17 <dsr__> s/alternatve/alternate/
14:02:03 <dsr__> Michael suggests one hour later than now as a possible compromise, or alternating the time slots
14:02:51 <dsr__> Matthias: alternativing slots tends to result in people only attending the calls that suit them
14:03:32 <dsr__> Kaz: similar challenge for auto group, we try to pick the timeslot for next call at the end of the current call
14:03:43 <mkovatsc> (and losing people because they are confused)
14:04:22 <dsr__> Johannes: we tried alternating slots in the IG and it caused considerable confusion, but good ICS files help with people’s calendards
14:04:38 <dsr__> s/calendards/calendars/
14:05:13 <mkovatsc> q+
14:06:02 <dsr__> Michael: a good reminder system helps, and to pick somewhat inconvenient but not horrible times to encourage regular participation
14:06:08 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:06:09 <dsr__> ack mk
14:06:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:06:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/15-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:06:35 <dsr__> Matthias: we should set up a poll to see what is the best compromise
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14:07:23 <dsr__> Michael: we should forward the poll to folks at the plugfest and others who may be interested in atttending if the time is more convenient
14:07:45 <dsr__> s/who/who are not yet members, but/
14:08:36 <mkovatsc> q?
14:08:44 <dsr__> Matthias asks Michael to organise the poll
14:09:07 <dsr__> q+
14:10:54 <dsr__> We need to clarify IG vs WG calls
14:10:58 <dsr__> ack ds
14:11:14 <dsr__> Michael: prefer to focus on IG call for now
14:11:52 <dsr__> Kaz: so maybe this call continues as a joint IG/WG call, but WG Task Force calls should be WG members only
14:12:10 <mkovatsc> q+
14:12:32 <dsr__> This relates to patent policy commitments for REC track items
14:13:10 <dsr__> Matthias: we have a joint IG/WG status tracking call, and  WG only calls for each WG task force
14:13:14 <mkovatsc> ack mk
14:14:59 <dsr__> Johannes: we need to accomodate the people who are in the task forces, but need to reachout to others
14:15:31 <dsr__> Matthias adjourns today’s call
14:15:35 <kaz> q?
14:15:44 <dsr__> chair: Matthias
14:15:54 <dsr__> rrsagent, set logs public
14:16:02 <dsr__> rrsagent, make minutes
14:16:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/15-wot-minutes.html dsr__
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