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16:01:27 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest Group Teleconference
16:01:27 <trackbot> Date: 07 February 2017
16:06:27 <dbooth> Present: Brian Pech, Thomas Lukasik, David Booth, EricP, Harold Solbrig
16:08:46 <dbooth> Topic: Update of Linked Data Module pages -- David
16:08:58 <dbooth> dbooth: Please give feedback/suggestions!
16:09:04 <dbooth>     Old module page: http://build.fhir.org/linked-data-module.html
16:09:04 <dbooth>     Draft new page: http://dbooth.org/2017/ld.html
16:14:01 <dbooth> Topic: Update on Protege issues
16:14:16 <dbooth> harold: Scheduling a meeting w Stanford at the end of March to work out remaining issues.
16:15:05 <dbooth> ... if you're using the import button in protege you get a box at the bottom of the screen that asks if you want help.  I need to follow through with that. ("Don't be a paper clip")
16:15:28 <dbooth> ... Haven't done anything on updating fhir.ttl
16:15:56 <dbooth> ... Need all of the properties to be declared as ObjectProperties or DataProperties.
16:16:39 <dbooth> ... If we load it currently it is OWL Full, and it cannot decide if something is an ObjectProperty.
16:17:47 <dbooth> ... Treated as OWL Full it has too much in there.  Original goal was to serve a purpose that shex is now serving -- types, cardinality, etc.
16:18:19 <dbooth> ... Goes into OWL Full when we get into concept area, we start treating some things as both classes and individuals.
16:18:54 <dbooth> ... Grahame said the goal of fhir.ttl is to support the reasoning we're doing now.
16:19:29 <dbooth> ... Our use case at the moment is to take a combination of SNOMED, FHIR instance data, fhir.ttl and optionally some additional classes, and reason about FHIR individuals.
16:20:01 <dbooth> ... We need things declared as ObjectProperties do to that.
16:21:17 <dbooth> dbooth: I thought we had decided to use the fhir.ttl ontology for reasoning and the shex for validation.
16:21:30 <dbooth> ... I.e., not try to use the fhir.ttl for validation.
16:22:13 <dbooth> harold: I could trim down what is in the fhir.ttl for that purpose.
16:22:24 <dbooth> ... Want to be sure that we keep the documentation.
16:23:09 <dbooth> ... For every attribute/property there are three duplicate things: rdfs:label, dc:term, etc.   Seems silly to have everything repeated 3 times.
16:24:26 <dbooth> ... Looking at fhir:narrative, I have rdfs:label, dc:title, rdfs:comment and dcterms:description.
16:24:58 <dbooth> ... rdfs:label needs to be narrative -- not including images.
16:29:26 <dbooth> ACTION: Harold to update the generation of fhir.ttl to focus only on reasoning support -- not validation
16:29:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Update the generation of fhir.ttl to focus only on reasoning support -- not validation [on Harold Solbrig - due 2017-02-14].
16:30:56 <dbooth> Topic: Documenting the owl importing sequence needed to make it work
16:31:05 <dbooth> harold: Not done yet, but working on it.
16:32:16 <dbooth> Topic: Updating the FHIR examples to include owl:Ontology and owl:imports declarations
16:32:56 <dbooth> harold: still pending.  waiting on the imports sequence resolution.
16:33:36 <dbooth> Topic: What URI to use in FHIR owl:Ontology declaration
16:33:43 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/38
16:35:03 <dbooth> harold: At the moment, if I am loading conditionexample.ttl, it assigns the URL from which I loaded it.  That seems reasonable.
16:37:46 <dbooth> dbooth: protege assigns it?  harold: yes.
16:38:00 <dbooth> dbooth: Then what should we put in the FHIR examples?  Anything?
16:40:26 <dbooth> harold: I need to try it more, to see if we really need it in the file.  There may still be dependence on order of imports.  Need to investigate more.
16:40:51 <dbooth> dbooth: Putting it in the file makes it more self-documenting.
16:44:07 <dbooth> harold: Need to investigate more.
16:47:10 <dbooth> Topic: Issue #36 Typing issues on value set references
16:47:41 <dbooth> harold: Still outstanding.  Probably needs to get into the LOD profile.
16:47:51 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/36
16:49:36 <dbooth> harold: Currently cannot validate to this level.  Might want to put it into a profile in the longer term.
16:49:55 <dbooth> ... This issue is low priority, because the resource is conceptmap, which is a meta resource.
16:50:41 <dbooth> ... No action at present.  It will be coupled to higher priority issue of gettting typing more rigorous.
16:50:57 <dbooth> rrsagent, where am i?
16:50:57 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2017/02/07-hcls-irc#T16-50-57
16:54:58 <dbooth> Topic: xxx
16:55:21 <dbooth> harold: Shex generation assumes that all values are type code, but there are several that are type coding or codedelement.
16:55:31 <dbooth> ... Need to fix that in the shex generator.
16:55:45 <dbooth> ... There are about 12 failing test now, because of that.
16:56:28 <dbooth> s/xxx/Updating Shex genjerator to handle required codings and codedelements/
16:56:55 <dbooth> rrsagent, where am i?
16:56:55 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2017/02/07-hcls-irc#T16-56-55
16:57:56 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 29: Concept code URI: Should we have one? What should it be?
16:58:19 <dbooth> harold: That was resolved.  We're using an rdf:type arc.
16:58:20 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/29
16:58:33 <dbooth> rrsagent, where am i?
16:58:33 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2017/02/07-hcls-irc#T16-58-33
16:59:26 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 16: Should fhir:reference.reference->value be a string or an RDF URI node?
16:59:33 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/16
17:01:01 <dbooth> harold: Resolved that one.  Called it fhir:link (optional).
17:01:19 <dbooth> ... And fhir:Reference.reference is the URI string
17:01:48 <dbooth> Topic: Issue 6: Downloadable FHIR ontology - Who maintains it and how?
17:01:53 <dbooth> https://github.com/w3c/hcls-fhir-rdf/issues/6
17:02:04 <dbooth> harold: it is produced by the FHIR build process now.
17:02:11 <dbooth> rrsagent, where am i?
17:02:11 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2017/02/07-hcls-irc#T17-02-11
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22:00:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Semantic Web Health Care and Life Sciences Interest Group Teleconference
22:00:45 <trackbot> Date: 07 February 2017
22:00:52 <dbooth> rrsagent, draft minutes
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