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14:36:30 <trackbot> Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
14:36:30 <trackbot> Date: 03 February 2017
14:36:42 <jeanne> agenda?
14:36:51 <Lauriat> agenda+ Stakeholder email follow-up
14:36:55 <Lauriat> agenda+ Researcher communications status and follow-up
14:36:56 <Lauriat> agenda+ Review open action items
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14:37:18 <SarahHorton> present+ SarahHorton
14:38:55 <jeanne> present+ jeanne, Shawn, Michael
14:39:11 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 1
14:39:11 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Stakeholder email follow-up" taken up [from Lauriat]
14:39:34 <jeanne> Sarah:  I have been getting responses.  Should I be archiving them outside of my inbox?
14:39:50 <jeanne> Shawn: I don't think so, unless they are responding with certain ideas
14:40:17 <jeanne> ... let's set up a folder that we can save them on.
14:40:56 <jeanne> action: Sarah to set up a folder to archive any of the emails that have substantive response
14:40:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Set up a folder to archive any of the emails that have substantive response [on Sarah Horton - due 2017-02-10].
14:41:37 <jeanne> ... for example, Andrew Arch wants to meet at CSUN and go over all organizations in Australia that want to participate.
14:42:00 <jeanne> ... maybe we should email the stakeholders to say that we are having presentations at CSUN
14:42:33 <jeanne> Jan: the EOWG is meeting at CSUN, I could ask one of the co-chairs of EOWG to follow up with Andrew.
14:43:37 <jeanne> Jeanne:  I like the idea of sending a note to the list about the meetings at CSUN
14:44:46 <jeanne> Shawn:  I think we need to make it clear that it is optional and that we will be sending people information if they can't attend
14:45:05 <jeanne> Sarah:  What do people think about being on the EOWG agenda?
14:45:22 <jeanne> Jeanne: Brilliant.  What do we want to ask them for?
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14:46:30 <jeanne> Shawn:  I think we should go to them without an ask, and have them tell us what is confusing and how to present it to the outside world.
14:47:17 <jeanne> action: Jan to talk with Brent and Sharron about being on the agenda
14:47:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Talk with brent and sharron about being on the agenda [on Jan McSorley - due 2017-02-10].
14:48:00 <jeanne> Sarah: Which would be a good one to invite the stakeholders to?
14:49:15 <jeanne> Shawn: All of the above: It would be helpful to let them know all 3 presentations so they can choose what fits in their schedule.  It would be helpful to list the 2.1 session, because a lot of people don't know about it.
14:50:01 <jeanne> Sarah: Mark ?? of a non-profit advocacy group, Web Professionals.  They have a newsletter going out in the middle of the month, and even can have a photo if we want.
14:50:42 <jeanne> ... it's a good idea to get information and awareness out about Silver.
14:51:03 <jeanne> ... we need to have an official spokesperson for the group, like Michael?
14:55:35 <jeanne> Michael:  I recommend Jeanne and Shawn being the front face, since Andrew and I work more in the background.
14:56:56 <jeanne> Jeanne:  When we meet on Monday, let's schedule a time to work on Silver outreach, Mark's article and CSUN presentations.
14:57:37 <jeanne> Sarah:  Start tweeting and include Stakeholders in the tweet.
14:58:55 <jeanne> Jeanne:  SilverStakeholders is a open hashtag in twitter.
14:59:04 <jeanne> Sarah:  It's too long
15:00:25 <jeanne> zakim, take up next
15:00:25 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Researcher communications status and follow-up" taken up [from Lauriat]
15:01:06 <jeanne> Shawn:  David got the action, but not the meeting minutes
15:01:40 <SarahHorton> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BYBo7DN7ktpluQYmAsbD2PjB4fbGBwmmNhL6W6qBaiE/edit
15:01:50 <jeanne> Sarah:  We will take the followup email in the Researcher Followup folder (internal link for privacy reasons)
15:02:20 <jeanne> ... change the sentence "I will be your point of contact" to "we will assign a regular point of contact"
15:02:40 <jeanne> ... Dave will continue to be the point person until he gets more details
15:02:53 <jeanne> ... then we can assign the person who will be the task force partner.
15:04:55 <Lauriat> Link to the current questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/132b4XZFOTQikKAmsRuc4Q_NvuhUqsRzX5JZ3iynKzxg/edit#heading=h.qe3if2dcb1kg
15:07:03 <jeanne> Shawn: The next step is to see what they (or their students) to answer and what methods they want to use, then we can assign a partner.
15:08:28 <jeanne> zakim, take up next
15:08:28 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Review open action items" taken up [from Lauriat]
15:09:37 <jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/open
15:10:03 <Lauriat> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/track/actions/11
15:10:25 <jeanne> action-11 followup with AWK on outreach to alistapart
15:10:40 <jeanne> ... Michael will followup
15:13:43 <jeanne> actions for jeanne for networking - will do this weekend.
15:17:09 <jeanne> action-33: close - Jan has detailed followup and is moving to the next level
15:17:09 <trackbot> Sorry, but I think you meant to close action-33.
15:17:19 <jeanne> close action-33
15:17:20 <trackbot> Closed action-33.
15:17:36 <jeanne> close action-34
15:17:36 <trackbot> Closed action-34.
15:20:44 <jeanne> action-40 - Shawn added names for people with Chrome accessibility and testing tools.
15:21:15 <jeanne> ... and a developer advocate who has been doing a lot of work for accessibility
15:21:44 <jeanne> ... and will do more for switch and hardware specialists
15:23:17 <jeanne> close action-52 - Shawn got articles on setting up the machine learning to help us discover more literature
15:24:33 <jeanne> Shawn: I talked iwth my colleague about gettting more articles and literature references beyond the literature references you know.
15:24:49 <jeanne> Jemma: Let me know what I can do to help.  I'm working at the library.
15:25:37 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
15:25:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/03-silver-minutes.html jeanne
15:27:04 <jeanne> assign action-55 to Sarah
15:27:13 <jeanne> close action-55
15:27:13 <trackbot> Closed action-55.
15:28:13 <jeanne> Sarah: I set up a draft for communications panel and set up a folder on Drive.
15:28:47 <jeanne> close action-57
15:28:47 <trackbot> Closed action-57.
15:29:36 <jeanne> Jemma:  I did outreach to faculty members in Korea last night.  Can they still fill out the research form?  I really want Korea to be active in the creation, not just the translation.
15:30:39 <jeanne> Jeanne: the survey is open to 28 February
15:30:46 <Lauriat> Link to the current questions: https://docs.google.com/document/d/132b4XZFOTQikKAmsRuc4Q_NvuhUqsRzX5JZ3iynKzxg/edit#heading=h.qe3if2dcb1kg
15:30:54 <jeanne> Topic: return to the research questions for additional input
15:35:46 <jeanne> Sarah: How do we manage the change that needs to happen in society?
15:36:09 <jeanne> Shawn: How do we manage the updates to Silver in response to changing technology
15:42:49 <jeanne> Sarah: Make adoption of accessibility guidelines straightforward (minimize disruption to process and practice and culture)
15:43:09 <jeanne> Jeanne: Make accessibility guidelines that facilitate a real change in how society manages digital access for people with disabilities?
15:43:38 <jeanne> Jan: The biggest challenge I have is that people perceive it as a conformance issue and don't see the valid add of doing it
15:46:18 <jeanne> Shawn:  I got involved in doing that. There are a lot of organizations that have their own reason for setting up their own guidelines.
15:47:03 <jeanne> Sarah:  I think that is a success metric for Silver: That there will be a demonsterable decrease in adaptations of Silver.
15:48:05 <jeanne> ... focusing on accessibility as a quality metric instead of a conformance metric.
15:49:03 <jeanne> Jan: It would be a interesting supplemental research product and work with EO to develop
15:49:15 <jeanne> Shawn: It would be very good for a landing page.
15:50:00 <jeanne> ... specifically, it doesn't belong in the guidelines, but it is great for the supplementary materials.
15:51:15 <jeanne> Jeanne: EOWG has it, but it is dated, more in the 2010 timeframe than 2016.
15:51:45 <jeanne> Jan: It is one of the biggest barriers -- people don't know how it can benefit the companies bottom line.
15:52:52 <jeanne> https://www.w3.org/WAI/bcase/Overview <- Designing a Web Accessibility Business Case for Your Organziation
15:54:45 <jeanne> Jeanne: I was wrong, it has been updated
15:55:50 <jeanne> Jan: We should be thinking about it now, because if we build that into Silver, the business case and the research will help us.
15:56:01 <jeanne> ... we have to find companies that are doing this well.
15:56:20 <jeanne> Shawn:  I know a researcher who is working in this space and is doing research in this topic.
15:56:52 <jeanne> Jan: I know someone woking on her PhD on this topic.  I will reach out to her.
16:00:28 <jeanne> Sarah:  I'll move the research questions onto the wiki page.
16:42:05 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
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16:42:20 <jeanne> present+ jan
16:42:41 <jeanne> Chair: Shawn, jeanne
16:42:51 <jeanne> regrets: Dave
16:42:58 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
16:42:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/03-silver-minutes.html jeanne