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15:55:12 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
15:55:12 <trackbot> Date: 01 February 2017
15:55:20 <Linda> regrets+ Jeremy
15:55:24 <Linda> present+ Linda
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16:00:27 <tidoust> Present+ Francois
16:00:38 <tidoust> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:BP-Telecon20170201
16:01:46 <ScottSimmons> present+ ScottSimmons
16:03:28 <Linda> Andrea, will you join webex?
16:04:51 <AndreaPerego> Just done.
16:05:10 <AndreaPerego> present+ AndreaPerego
16:05:11 <Linda> can't hear you yet
16:06:05 <ClemensPortele> scribe: ClemensPortele
16:06:05 <Linda> scribe: ClemensPortele
16:06:08 <Linda> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-sdwbp-minutes
16:06:16 <ClemensPortele> scribenick: ClemensPortele
16:06:24 <ClemensPortele> regrets+ Jeremy, Lars
16:06:33 <Linda> +1
16:06:34 <ClemensPortele> +1
16:07:24 <Linda> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
16:07:56 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: Discuss progress of current sprint based on the Sprint Plan
16:08:06 <ClemensPortele> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Detailed_planning_BP_document
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16:09:16 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-242
16:09:31 <ClemensPortele> (Restructure the document to move the summary to the top and remove the template)
16:10:11 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Restructuring is done, BP overview is now chapter 4
16:10:39 <ClemensPortele> ... action is complete
16:11:03 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-232, ACTION-233
16:12:01 <Linda> ClemensPortele: is done, except that links to issues are still in the draft.
16:12:02 <ClemensPortele> ClemensPortele: actions done, no comments received
16:12:30 <ClemensPortele> ... issues could be closed
16:13:37 <ClemensPortele> Action on Linda to review whether the issues can be closed
16:13:37 <trackbot> Error finding 'on'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/users>.
16:13:48 <ClemensPortele> Action Linda to review whether the issues can be closed
16:13:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-260 - Review whether the issues can be closed [on Linda van den Brink - due 2017-02-08].
16:14:48 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Everyone should review the changes (like all other changes)
16:15:01 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-234
16:16:04 <ClemensPortele> ClemensPortele: schema.org snippet is included, but statistics on schema.org Place is missing
16:16:14 <ClemensPortele> ... needs to wait for Ed's input
16:16:36 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-247 Rewrite of section 7 Coordinate Reference Systems
16:17:03 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Done, rewrite done by Ed and now in the Editor's draft
16:17:23 <ClemensPortele> ... some parts were left out as too detailed for the audience
16:17:53 <ClemensPortele> ClemensPortele: detail seemed sufficient to me
16:18:07 <ClemensPortele> Linda: again, everyone to review
16:18:23 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-241 Further work on best practices 3 and 18 about Coordinate Reference Systems (possibly merging them)
16:18:53 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Byron is working on it, no pull request, progress unclear
16:19:17 <ClemensPortele> Action Linda to ask Byron about progress on ACTION-241
16:19:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-261 - Ask byron about progress on action-241 [on Linda van den Brink - due 2017-02-08].
16:19:51 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-248 Further work on BP7 (use HTTP URIs) + BP14 (Links to related resources)
16:20:08 <ClemensPortele> Linda: jtandy reported that he wants to work on it over the weekend
16:20:14 <ClemensPortele> ... should be part of the next release
16:20:42 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: ACTION-249 Further work on BP8 (geometry)
16:21:11 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: Had a call with jtandy about the changes
16:21:29 <ClemensPortele> ... will work on this next week, we should have something ready in two weeks
16:22:30 <ClemensPortele> ... plans to make changes in fork in his own repository so that everyone can review before merging into the Editor's draft
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16:23:08 <ClemensPortele> Linda: sounds good
16:23:23 <ChrisLittle> Present+ ChrisLittle
16:23:45 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: There has been a discussion on the email list and in the last meeting that will have an impact on the BP
16:23:56 <ChrisLittle> Q+
16:24:06 <ClemensPortele> ... also we should add to the glossary, e.g. on "dimension"
16:24:55 <ClemensPortele> ... there is a specialist definition in the ISO-based glossary, but we should also have something for the non-specialist
16:25:26 <ClemensPortele> Linda: yes, this is one of the terms we take for granted
16:25:32 <Linda> ack ChrisLittle
16:25:48 <ClemensPortele> ChrisLittle: my working definition is what is in the RDF Data Cube
16:27:01 <ClemensPortele> ... other work by Rob Atkinson as well as Peter Baumann (WCS)
16:27:40 <ClemensPortele> ... probably same meaning, but in some cases "dimension" is reduced to coordinate dimension
16:28:04 <ClemensPortele> ... but, e.g., "species" can be a dimension, too
16:28:24 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: Please provide a link to the Data Cube definition
16:28:29 <ClemensPortele> ChrisLittle: Will do
16:30:50 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: I will add candidates for discussion in my fork so we can discuss it
16:31:12 <ClemensPortele> ChrisLittle: This is raised also in the OGC as it is relevant for map services
16:31:34 <ClemensPortele> Linda: so this action will not be ready for the next release
16:32:28 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: probably yes, but it should be ready for the next release
16:33:00 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: Other actions for this sprint
16:33:13 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Noone working on BP1, so this will not be part of the sprint
16:33:59 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ACTION-240 Remove BP17 (crowdsourcing) from BP document is done. Some text has been moved elsewhere (BP1)
16:34:30 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... in examples
16:34:53 <AndreaPerego> s/Noone/None/
16:34:56 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... also ready for review
16:35:12 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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16:35:30 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: Outreach for wider review
16:35:44 <ClemensPortele> Linda: task on Ed and Phil
16:35:49 <ChrisLittle> Present+ ChrisLittle
16:35:51 <AndreaPerego> chair: Linda
16:35:53 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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16:36:08 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... progress is unclear
16:36:51 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Recap - most issues are done and wait for review
16:37:46 <ClemensPortele> Linda: when should we freeze? Proposal: Monday morning (would include actions 248, but not 249, 241 unclear)
16:37:52 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... thoughts?
16:37:55 <ClemensPortele> q+
16:38:06 <Linda> ack ClemensPortele
16:38:54 <AndreaPerego> +1 to ClemensPortele
16:39:05 <ClemensPortele> ClemensPortele: I think we should stick to our time plan
16:39:21 <ChrisLittle> +1 to freeze
16:39:21 <ClemensPortele> PROPOSAL: Freeze edits on Monday morning
16:39:26 <AndreaPerego> +1 to ClemensPortele
16:39:30 <Linda> +1
16:39:33 <ClemensPortele> +1
16:39:40 <AndreaPerego> s/+1 to ClemensPortele /+1/
16:39:48 <AndreaPerego> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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16:40:02 <ClemensPortele> Action Linda to update BP sprint plan accordingly
16:40:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-262 - Update bp sprint plan accordingly [on Linda van den Brink - due 2017-02-08].
16:40:26 <ClemensPortele> TOPIC: discuss contents of next sprint
16:40:53 <ChrisLittle> Q+
16:41:06 <ClemensPortele> Linda: next week to next f2f meeting
16:41:22 <Linda> ack ChrisLittle
16:41:27 <ChrisLittle> Q-
16:42:23 <ClemensPortele> Linda: See backlog https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Detailed_planning_BP_document#Backlog_-_To_do
16:42:46 <ClemensPortele> Linda: highest priority comes first in the list
16:43:24 <ClemensPortele> Linda: BP1 was discussed in London and we need address the points made there
16:43:38 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... see https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/520
16:44:18 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... discussion probably needs a larger group than we have today, but it should be in the next sprint
16:44:20 <ClemensPortele> +1
16:44:28 <Linda> +1
16:44:39 <AndreaPerego> +1
16:44:42 <ChrisLittle> +1
16:44:43 <ScottSimmons> +1
16:45:49 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Next one for the next sprint would be BP10 (spatial semantics). A choice between vocabularies, or a good method for selecting the right vocabulary for a specific use, is needed. See https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/39 and https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/214.
16:45:59 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... should be in the netx sprint, too
16:46:07 <ClemensPortele> s/netx/next/
16:46:09 <ClemensPortele> +1
16:46:14 <Linda> +1
16:46:15 <ChrisLittle> +1
16:47:09 <AndreaPerego> +1
16:47:21 <AndreaPerego> q+
16:47:28 <Linda> ack AndreaPerego
16:47:30 <ClemensPortele> Linda: One question is who wants to work on BP10 and has ideas?
16:48:14 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: This is general and affects also how we select how we represent geometries
16:49:36 <ClemensPortele> Linda: The work on the spatial ontology will take longer than the BP work
16:50:34 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: Then we should show how things are done today (examples)
16:51:08 <ClemensPortele> AndreaPerego: ... will make a proposal in the ongoing work on BP8
16:51:53 <ClemensPortele> Linda: currently no owner for BP10, but we agree it is a key issue
16:52:16 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Anyone willing to own BP1?
16:52:44 <ClemensPortele> (silence)
16:53:54 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Next is BP2 (provide context required to interpret data values, https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/384)
16:54:15 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... can it be removed, covered by DWBP already?
16:54:27 <ClemensPortele> Linda: ... could also be in a future spint
16:54:52 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Also no owner at the moment
16:55:15 <ChrisLittle> My Action: here is the link to the W3C RDF (non) definition of Dimensions: http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/
16:55:21 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Next is chapter 11 (how to use these best practices, https://github.com/w3c/sdw/issues/381)
16:55:27 <AndreaPerego> Thanks, ChrisLittle !
16:56:07 <tidoust> q+
16:56:07 <ClemensPortele> Linda: Any topic on the backlog where we have a volunteer?
16:56:15 <Linda> ack tidoust
16:57:18 <ClemensPortele> tidoust: question on the time line - based on the current plan after this spring there will mainly be editorial changes
16:58:12 <ClemensPortele> tidoust: ... so everything where we do not have a volunteer for the next sprint, we won't get it into the BP document
16:58:28 <ClemensPortele> Linda: yes, this correct - please consider this
16:59:26 <Linda> regrets+ Lars
16:59:42 <ClemensPortele> Action Linda to send email to the WG to remind everyone to volunteer for the next sprint, otherwise it is in danger of being dropped from the BP document
16:59:45 <trackbot> Created ACTION-263 - Send email to the wg to remind everyone to volunteer for the next sprint, otherwise it is in danger of being dropped from the bp document [on Linda van den Brink - due 2017-02-08].
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