16:00:31 RRSAgent has joined #tt 16:00:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-irc 16:00:33 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:00:33 Zakim has joined #tt 16:00:35 Zakim, this will be TTML 16:00:35 ok, trackbot 16:00:36 Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference 16:00:36 Date: 19 January 2017 16:08:03 Present: Nigel, Glenn 16:13:55 scribe: Nigel 16:13:57 Chair: Nigel 16:14:01 glenn has joined #tt 16:14:03 https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS22/visudet.html#inline-non-replaced 16:33:32 Present+ Thierry 16:34:14 Topic: This Meeting 16:34:37 nigel: Apologies, after our discussion on Friday last week I moved the meeting an hour later 16:34:48 .. as discussed, however I clearly did not make this obvious enough in the agenda, and 16:35:33 .. some folk joined at the (old) time. I understand there was some useful discussion. 16:36:02 Thierry: I explained that we have discovered that we can publish a new FPWD using the same short name, 16:36:13 .. then we would go for a Wide Review, then CR, then have an implementation suite for the 16:36:25 .. two new features, along the regular Rec track process. 16:36:39 s/I ex/Regarding IMSC1.1, I ex 16:38:12 Thierry: So the good news is that we can publish a FPWD with the same short name. 16:38:23 .. Pierre has provided a draft with the additional insertion of those two features, so I asked 16:38:37 .. him to make it clear in the SOTD or in the Introduction that the difference between that spec 16:38:48 .. and the former Rec are those two optional new features. 16:39:00 .. And then Pierre would like to publish this as soon as possible, so he was thinking about 16:39:12 .. next week or the week following. If we want to do that we need to have WG agreement 16:39:20 .. for publication. 16:39:43 Nigel: Let's short-cut that slightly - I'll record the Proposal in the minutes here now: 16:44:32 PROPOSAL: Publish a FPWD of the updated IMSC 1 version under the short name ttml-imsc1 16:44:58 Nigel: The group should review the latest ED so that we can come to a resolution on this as soon as possible. 16:45:23 Nigel: The nature of this is that the FPWD already could be claimed to meet CR requirements 16:45:46 .. since the changes are directly imposed from liaison input. However I would suggest a short Wide Review period. 16:46:06 Thierry: I would make the FPWD separate from the CR so that there is time to arrange the 16:46:15 .. transition call. The real concern is to publish something soon. 16:46:18 Nigel: Yes, I support that. 16:47:34 .. I see from recent emails that Pierre has already been working on issues and a pull request. 16:47:44 -> https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/202 16:50:29 Nigel: I also put a note on the agenda that we should focus on those semantics that affect 16:50:37 .. backgrounds on span. 16:50:50 Glenn: I plan to propose some spec text immediately after completing the pull request I 16:51:04 .. am working on now, which is to address https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/232 16:51:19 .. which concerns applying border and padding to images, including background images. 16:58:53 Nigel: While we're on TTML2, I'd like to call up my action: 16:58:53 action-492? 16:58:53 action-492 -- Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:58:53 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492 16:58:53 Nigel: I went through all the TTML1 issues we agreed last week and marked up the equivalent 16:58:53 .. TTML2 issues as discussed and agreed. There weren't very many, since some do not seem 16:58:53 .. to have equivalent issues. I'm not sure if they should, or if the same problems no longer 16:58:53 .. exist in TTML2. 16:58:53 Glenn: I plan to go through all of the TTML1 issues and double check against TTML2, so I will catch those. 16:58:53 close action-492 16:58:53 Closed action-492. 16:58:53 Nigel: Thank you! 16:58:53 Topic: Profiles Registry 16:58:53 action-494? 16:58:53 action-494 -- Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW 16:58:53 http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494 16:58:53 Oops - for understanding these notes please transpose the above two action! 16:58:53 s/n!/ns! 16:58:53 close action-494 16:58:53 Closed action-494. 16:58:53 Nigel: Thank you Thierry for publishing the updated profiles registry. 16:58:53 Thierry: Yes, I did publish it yesterday, which the auto-publisher permitted despite a broken link, 16:58:53 .. and today Mike told me that DECE has fixed the link with a redirect so now the link is not broken. 16:58:53 Nigel: Great, thanks both! 16:58:53 Nigel: Thanks both, and everyone who joined early, apologies again. I'll adjourn now - next week I'll keep it at 1100 Boston time (primary), 1600 UK time, 1700 Europe time, and whatever time that is in all the other time zones... 16:58:53 .. [adjourns meeting] 16:58:53 rrsagent, make minutes 16:58:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:02:19 rrsagent, make minutes 17:02:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:04:24 s/imposed/derived 17:07:33 i/Glenn: I plan to/Topic: TTML 17:08:23 rrsagent, make minutes 17:08:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:09:13 s/Topic: TTML// 17:09:26 i/Glenn: I plan to propose/Topic: TTML 17:10:02 s/492/492X/g 17:10:08 s/494/492/g 17:10:15 s/492X/494/g 17:11:03 s|Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW|Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW 17:11:27 s|Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW|Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW 17:12:24 rrsagent, make minutes 17:12:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:13:08 s|Oops - for understanding these notes please transpose the above two actions!| 17:13:09 rrsagent, make minutes 17:13:09 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 17:15:09 ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics 17:15:10 rrsagent, make minutes 17:15:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-tt-minutes.html nigel 18:58:37 Zakim has left #tt