06:47:26 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 06:47:26 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-td-irc 06:48:31 Fenger has joined #wot-td 07:03:00 taki has joined #wot-td 07:05:52 kaz has joined #wot-td 07:06:27 present+ Kaz, Feng, Sebastian, Takuki 07:08:43 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2017Jan/0004.html 07:11:22 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 07:11:55 regrets: Daniel 07:12:05 regrets+ Dave 07:12:25 sk: would like to talk about github issues 07:12:48 ... what will be the plugfest scenarios for TD? 07:13:08 ... and TD topics for the f2f 07:13:31 sebastian has joined #wot-td 07:13:33 present+ Yingying 07:13:41 ... (share his screen) 07:14:13 ... (shows github issues) 07:14:21 ... 2 issues for TD 07:14:53 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/283 issue-283 07:15:00 ... issue on mapping to RDF (283) 07:15:12 ... should be presented by Dave during the upcoming call 07:15:40 ... comment from Kellogg as well 07:15:52 ... seems he will join the Santa Clara f2f 07:16:25 ... mentioning issue on json-ld repo: https://github.com/json-ld/json-ld.org/pull/449 07:16:30 ... will contact him 07:17:22 ... he lives in US but not sure if he lives in California 07:17:36 s/... seems he will join the Santa Clara f2f// 07:17:54 ... another issue from Johannes 07:18:07 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/263 issue-263 07:18:35 ... core vocabulary 07:18:57 ... will discuss later during the upcoming call and the f2f 07:19:40 ... and next issue on avoiding an array 07:19:44 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/259 issue-259 07:19:54 ... would like to avoid talking about concrete serialization 07:20:13 ... would prefer possible multiple serializations 07:20:34 ... would be great if we could get progress in Santa Clara 07:20:42 ... property, action and event 07:20:55 ... need this kind of description 07:21:11 ... if we could conclusion in Santa Clara, could move forward 07:21:33 ... easy integration with semantic approach 07:21:53 ... we have to think about the detail to get concrete serialization 07:22:06 ... may be some dominant representation 07:22:12 ... those are open issues 07:22:25 ... please feel free to look at them and give your comments 07:23:13 topic: Plans and ideas for plugfest 07:23:24 sk: got ideas on the wiki 07:23:55 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara f2f wiki 07:24:10 sk: taki, do you know about Nimura-san's demo? 07:24:22 taki: need to check 07:24:38 sk: we should have concrete scenarios for the demos 07:25:15 ... the question is what we would like to see and experiment 07:25:33 ... I myself can set up some scenario 07:25:47 ... please let me know about what you want to see 07:27:02 ... (shows the Current Practice document) 07:27:24 -> w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html current practice document (3.2.6.2.2 Repository section) 07:27:51 ... need to provide some repository for the plugfest 07:28:12 ... let me what you would like to see for TD 07:28:29 q+ 07:28:53 kaz: are you ok with having multiple scenarios? 07:29:04 ... or prefer having some specific scenario including all the demos? 07:29:16 sk: depends on the implementations 07:29:20 ack k 07:29:41 ... we can decide if we put everything into only one plugfest later 07:30:26 ... will ask people during the plenary meeting later as well 07:31:08 kaz: fyi, MMI guys would like to join PlugFest during TPAC in Nov. for UI capability 07:31:10 sk: ok 07:31:26 ... Michael Koster is located in California, and would expect his participation 07:31:35 ... will check during the plenary call 07:32:02 ... small changes to the Current Document 07:32:13 ... about the new structure 07:32:21 -> @@@ section 3.2.1 07:32:33 present+ Youngmin 07:34:53 s|@@@|http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html#quick-start-td-samples| 07:35:04 dape has joined #wot-td 07:35:33 ... maybe make sense to create another specific version for the Santa Clara f2f like we did for the Beijing meeting 07:36:32 -> https://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-beijing-2016.html Current Practices document for the Beijing meeting 07:36:41 ... we have to ask you all 07:37:40 kaz: do you want to publish it as an IG Note? 07:38:16 sk: not at the moment 07:38:30 kaz: sorry failed to publish the Beijing snapshot version as a group note 07:38:58 q+ 07:40:14 ... if we want, we can publish the document as a group note if the content is fixed 07:40:26 sk: the content is already fixed for the Santa Clara meeting, I think 07:41:22 kaz: in that case, we can make our TF decision here to publish it 07:41:25 q- 07:41:37 ... and bring the proposal to the main call and get the IG approval 07:42:28 ... (check the TF consensus) 07:42:31 publishing -> +1 07:42:38 (everybody agrees) 07:43:18 RESOLUTION: the TD TF would like to publish the Santa Clara version of the Current Practices document as an IG Note, and would like to send it to the IG plenary call 07:44:15 topic: TD topics for Santa Clara meeting 07:44:24 sk: everybody can make proposals on the wiki 07:44:54 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Input_Breakout_Topics f2f wiki 07:45:14 sk: note that Mathtias is contacting a JSON Schema community guy 07:46:09 ... happy to have them in Santa Clara 07:46:24 ... and another topic on Type system 07:46:34 ... and TD model 07:46:56 q+ 07:47:23 ... binary representation as well 07:48:16 ... if there is anything you want to see, please make your proposal on the wiki 07:48:53 ... McCool also interested in semantics and connection to RDF 07:49:47 kaz: thought Kajimoto-san and others were interested lifecycle and version management in TD 07:50:14 sk: ok 07:50:23 kaz: he mentioned he was still working on that 07:50:26 sk: good 07:50:57 ... any other topics? 07:51:09 kaz: Yongmin's introduction? 07:51:20 sk: yes, welcome to this TD call, Yongmin! 07:51:53 s/Yongmin/Youngmin/g 07:52:05 topic: Welcome Youngmin 07:52:09 yj: from KETI 07:52:15 ... researching IoT kind of tech 07:52:30 ... just joined this IG 07:52:39 ... would like to know specs on your work 07:52:51 sk: welcome! 07:53:06 ... this is a TF of the WoT IG working on the Thing Description 07:53:40 ... we have building blocks: Thing Description, Scripting API 07:53:59 ... TD TF working on vocabulary and semantics 07:54:16 ... so that machines can understand 07:54:35 ... how the semantics included in the serialization formats as well 07:54:41 yj: ok, tx! 07:55:08 sk: we regularly meet at this time and have another IG plenary call 07:55:23 ... working on f2f preparation, etc., now 07:55:32 ... later see you at the plenary call as well! 07:55:39 ... any other topics? 07:55:41 (none) 07:56:39 see you in 5 hours! 07:57:08 [ adjourned ] 07:57:14 rrsagent, make log public 07:57:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 07:57:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 08:50:15 zkis has joined #wot-td 09:50:02 Zakim has left #wot-td 10:57:38 yingying has joined #wot-td 11:00:01 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 13:05:32 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 13:08:25 ying_ying has joined #wot-td 13:21:34 sebastian has joined #wot-td 13:21:51 present+ sebastian_kaebisch 13:59:13 taki has left #wot-td