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13:08:08 <kaz> scribenick: McCool
13:08:09 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_18_January_2017
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13:08:14 <kaz> scribe: McCool
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13:08:39 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
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13:08:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
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13:09:08 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_18_January_2017
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13:11:00 <McCool> todo: add fernando serena (WoT ontology work) to agenda queue
13:11:22 <kaz> present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
13:11:29 <McCool> Fernando Serena <fserena@fi.upm.es>
13:12:01 <kaz> agenda+ Fernando Serena working on WoT ontology
13:12:12 <kaz> present+ Uday_Davuluru
13:12:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:12:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:12:50 <McCool> Darko can talk about ontology work
13:12:56 <kaz> agenda+ OCF liaison TF
13:13:14 <McCool> also, McCool would like to announce time/date for OCF liaison meeting... Kaz to provide
13:13:24 <mkovatsc> Updated https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_18_January_2017
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13:14:15 <DarkoAnicic> http://iot.linkeddata.es/def/wot/index-en.html
13:14:16 <kaz> Chair: Matthias, Yongjing
13:14:33 <McCool> Darko: ontology explanation...
13:14:50 <McCool> has been in contact with them, WoT ontology developed
13:15:05 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG
13:15:10 <McCool> formalize in RDF the model behind TD
13:15:34 <McCool> with some additions for "horizontal layer"
13:16:26 <McCool> Darko's point of view: they are aware of iot.schema.org, but didn't build on it...
13:16:57 <McCool> better for Fernando to present, Darko to arrange
13:17:09 <yongjing> q+
13:17:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:17:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:17:14 <kaz> q?
13:17:40 <mkovatsc> ack yongjing
13:17:44 <kaz> i/todo:/topic: Agenda bashing/
13:17:50 <McCool> Yongjing: developed under a european research project?
13:18:20 <McCool> Darko: yes, under an EU project, Vincinity
13:18:30 <kaz> i|index-en.html|topic: WoT Ontology|
13:18:33 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:18:52 <McCool> project also have three domains: want to extend to mobility, smart homes
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13:19:01 <mkovatsc> q?
13:19:22 <yongjing> Darko: and they also consider SAREF
13:20:07 <McCool> OCF mtg Tuesday 8am Eastern Time, 2pm Europe
13:20:26 <kaz> [ webex coordinate to be sent to the member list later ]
13:20:45 <mkovatsc> q+
13:20:55 <McCool> McCool: goal, want to be able to send it off...
13:21:34 <McCool> McCool to make sure OCF TF charter is in github
13:22:05 <kaz> kaz: can add the webex info to the telco wiki as well: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#WebConf_Information
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13:22:43 <McCool> Kaz to make a wiki entry for meeting info...
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13:23:32 <mkovatsc> q?
13:23:35 <mkovatsc> ack mkovatsc
13:23:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:24:05 <McCool> F2F logistics... registration looks good now
13:24:16 <kaz> i|F2F|topic: F2F Logistics|
13:24:17 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:24:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:24:32 <McCool> also, today is deadline to register for hotel...
13:25:06 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201602/results registration results
13:25:17 <McCool> https://gc.synxis.com/rez.aspx?Hotel=17660&Chain=7106&arrive=2/2/2017&depart=2/11/2017&adult=2&child=2&group=1702INTELC
13:25:54 <McCool> 800.345.1554 with code 1702INTELC as an alternative
13:27:14 <McCool> is breakfast included? seems to be via booking .com
13:28:56 <McCool> how do we handle registrations for people who just want to attend the open day?
13:30:12 <McCool> A: ask people to register, but select "other" and note will only be coming to "open day" on Jan 6
13:30:13 <dsr> q+ re Erich Clauer @ SAP as observer for F2F
13:30:42 <sebastian> q+
13:30:48 <McCool> Dave Raggett: observers?
13:31:48 <McCool> OK, with chairs
13:31:54 <kaz> s/Dave Raggett/Dave_Raggett/
13:32:19 <McCool> Dave: first step to recruit to group; also good to have SAP there
13:32:35 <McCool> also oneM2M community members may attend, at least on open day
13:33:00 <kaz> i/Dave:/kaz: SAP is a W3C Member and agree great to have them there if it's OK by the Chairs./
13:33:24 <McCool> there is no restriction to people in Bay Area; everyone is welcome
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13:35:37 <McCool> registration: badges... should we print in advance?   No, but can have people write out own badges...
13:36:01 <McCool> McCool: will check with Cindy to see if she can organize badges
13:36:47 <McCool> Note again: everyone who attends should register
13:38:27 <McCool> action: Kaz to add question about affiliation to registration questionnaire
13:38:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Add question about affiliation to registration questionnaire [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2017-01-25].
13:38:56 <McCool> action: McCool to add OCF liaison charter to github as a pull request
13:38:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Add ocf liaison charter to github as a pull request [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
13:41:24 <McCool> action: ask Cindy and/or Ryan to look into a suitable hotel for a social dinner on Monday, aim for 2/3 of attendees
13:41:24 <trackbot> Error finding 'ask'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/track/users>.
13:41:57 <kaz> action: McCool to ask  Cindy and/or Ryan to look into a suitable hotel for a social dinner on Monday, aim for 2/3 of attendees
13:41:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-88 - Ask  cindy and/or ryan to look into a suitable hotel for a social dinner on monday, aim for 2/3 of attendees [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
13:42:03 <McCool> action: McCool to ask Cindy if she can help organize badges
13:42:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Ask cindy if she can help organize badges [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
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13:45:35 <McCool> any updates on who we can invite to open day?
13:46:00 <McCool> updates from google (physical web, android, brillo/android things), ARM, etc.
13:46:44 <McCool> how many?   4-5 is ok, as long as they make sense
13:46:55 <McCool> Michael Koster to also do some outreach
13:47:35 <McCool> others: Apple, Amazon
13:47:51 <McCool> action: McCool to look into Amazon
13:47:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Look into amazon [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
13:48:03 <McCool> Action: Dave to also look into Amazon
13:48:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Also look into amazon [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
13:48:55 <dsr> I would like to ping Dan Brickley (schema.org) and Matt McNeil (Google cloud platform), and to loop tjhis through Max Senges and Matthias.
13:49:25 <dsr> I am also interested in inviting Apple and Amazon, but lack contacts in Amazon.
13:49:40 <McCool> Note: if someone else contacts someone at Google, please ask them to coordinate with Max Senges
13:49:40 <dsr> For Apple, we could talk with their AC Rep
13:50:25 <McCool> Action: Dave to look through list of W3C members
13:50:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Look through list of w3c members [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
13:51:12 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/11/auto-outreach.html W3C Members related to WoT
13:52:06 <McCool> action: McCool to talk to some people from OpenFog
13:52:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Talk to some people from openfog [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
13:52:31 <McCool> Dave: IIC
13:52:52 <McCool> action: Dave to talk to IIC and OPC
13:52:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Talk to iic and opc [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
13:54:20 <McCool> mattias: JSON-LD
13:55:04 <McCool> JSON Schema - good time to engage
13:55:32 <kaz> i|McCool to talk to|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/07/WoT-outreach.html WoT outreach targets|
13:55:39 <McCool> Michael Koster: Gerant Liu, JSON Schema, new charter
13:55:47 <McCool> going beyond just validation
13:56:02 <McCool> can refer to github
13:56:58 <kaz> topic: TD Update
13:57:19 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-td-minutes.html TD minutes
13:57:22 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Participation
13:57:23 <McCool> plugfest: details missing
13:57:25 <mjkoster> https://github.com/json-schema-org/json-schema-spec
13:58:02 <McCool> concrete scenarios...
13:59:26 <mkovatsc> Test list from Beijing: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijing/plugfest-test-cases-beijing-2016.md
13:59:44 <McCool> please fill out list...
14:00:07 <kaz> i|Test List|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_July_2016,_China,_Beijing#Scenario Scenario table from the Beijing f2f|
14:00:26 <mkovatsc> s/fill out list/fill out table on PlugFest wiki page/
14:01:20 <McCool> action: McCool to talk to Zoltan about what he's bringing
14:01:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - Talk to zoltan about what he's bringing [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
14:01:29 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#PlugFest PlugFest table on the Santa Clara f2f wiki
14:02:17 <McCool> Michael Koster is putting together a "virtual thing"
14:04:18 <McCool> testing: how to do?
14:04:34 <McCool> can pair up devices, one in client role, one in server role
14:04:42 <McCool> generally need a more structured approach
14:05:43 <McCool> let's add a breakout session for "testing planning"
14:05:58 <mkovatsc> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-santa-clara-2017.html
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14:06:44 <McCool> version of current practices document for reference at plugfest... will be released as interest group note after plugfest
14:07:34 <dape> q+
14:08:28 <McCool> action: Kaz to do a call for consensus: propose that we *don't* publish the Beijing version, but will publish this (Santa Clara) version
14:08:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-96 - Do a call for consensus: propose that we *don't* publish the beijing version, but will publish this (santa clara) version [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2017-01-25].
14:10:34 <McCool> note: santa clara version will still be updated until the plugfest... call for reviews now, feedback deadline would be Feb 6
14:12:29 <McCool> Dave: TD is helpful for publicity
14:12:57 <kaz> s/TD/publishing the Current Practice document as an official W3C Group Note/
14:14:48 <McCool> kaz: suggest use github version for now, then publish note after debugging
14:15:10 <McCool> then we use Current Practice document from Santa Clara to recruit
14:16:09 <McCool> then we all take actions to promote it
14:17:13 <dape> ack dape
14:17:32 <mkovatsc> q?
14:17:50 <McCool> next item: communication task TF summary
14:17:55 <mkovatsc> ack sebastian
14:18:03 <kaz> i/topic: Comm TF summary/
14:18:16 <kaz> i/next item:/topic: Comm TF summary/
14:18:26 <McCool> Michael, Yingying, and Kaz
14:18:30 <kaz> s|i/topic: Comm TF summary/||
14:18:34 <McCool> global work, local recruitment
14:19:23 <McCool> kaz: news on w3c page, sending messages to mailing lists, targeted messaging to particular groups
14:20:20 <McCool> for 2018 F2F, discussed security conference... IEEE S&P Conference looks to be appropriate
14:20:56 <McCool> top-ranked, in SF area, expect it to be week of may 20-26 based on previous years
14:21:19 <McCool> Yingying will contact organizers
14:21:38 <kaz> s/for 2018/yingying: for 2018/
14:23:04 <McCool> yingying: keep the Comm TF timeslot to discuss items "on request", as agenda items arise, but a regular meeting does not seem to work well
14:24:06 <McCool> kaz: have a standing agenda item for communication in last 5-10 minutes
14:24:19 <McCool> of IG plenary
14:24:37 <dsr> q?
14:24:56 <McCool> action: yingying to maintain agenda items for communication at end of IG plenary agenda
14:24:56 <trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Maintain agenda items for communication at end of ig plenary agenda [on Yingying Chen - due 2017-01-25].
14:25:47 <McCool> dave: agenda request for next week: draft for a semantics TF charter, want to have something for discussion by next week
14:27:25 <McCool> co-chairs meeting has also been decided... Kaz will send details; 10am in Europe, 6pm in Japan, Wednesday
14:28:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:28:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:28:11 <kaz> [ adjourned
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