11:56:25 RRSAgent has joined #wot 11:56:25 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/01/09-wot-irc 11:59:16 thor has joined #wot 11:59:17 zkis has joined #wot 11:59:21 hyojin has joined #wot 11:59:22 misalias_ has joined #wot 11:59:24 benfrancis has joined #wot 11:59:27 rrware has joined #wot 11:59:28 lukasz has joined #wot 11:59:33 jet has joined #wot 11:59:39 tobie has joined #wot 12:00:31 jhund has joined #wot 12:00:41 Karen has joined #wot 12:03:41 present+ Kaz, Johannes, Zoltan 12:03:52 topic: PlugFest in Santa Clara 12:04:08 chrysn has joined #wot 12:04:08 jh: any changes for Scripting API? 12:04:09 ms7821 has joined #wot 12:04:52 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/293 Issue-293 12:04:55 present+ Uday 12:05:15 dape has joined #wot 12:05:33 jh: somebody implementing Scripting API for PlugFest 12:05:54 ... most concrete proposal for Issue-293 was about discovery callback 12:06:13 ... related to issue 240 12:06:22 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/240 Issue-240 12:06:36 davu has joined #wot 12:06:46 jh: Zoltan proposed promise-based approach 12:06:54 ... looks reasonable 12:07:13 ... now what to do is how to implement it 12:07:19 ... how it should be exposed 12:07:28 present+ Daniel 12:07:32 ... any opinions? 12:07:55 ... how do we convey this kind of information for the upcoming Plugfest? 12:08:00 zk: free agree 12:08:07 ... simplest and best 12:08:21 jh: callback and promise? 12:08:59 zk: would like to try to avoid event handling 12:09:18 ... for asynchronous mechanism like discovery 12:09:25 jh: agree 12:09:37 ... my question is if we need any kind of document 12:10:02 zk: we should meet at PlugFest first and then document it 12:10:17 jh: ok 12:10:27 ... Uday, any comments? 12:10:45 ... Callback/promise and documentation 12:11:17 ud: won't be involved in PlugFest this time 12:11:43 jh: any implementers for the upcoming PlugFest? 12:12:06 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara f2f wiki 12:12:40 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_PlugFest_description plugfest template 12:12:53 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201602/results registration results 12:13:50 jh: Panasonic, Fujitsu(?), Siemens and Intel 12:14:36 ... will reach out people here 12:14:51 ka: tx 12:15:04 ... people are encouraged to put concrete information using the template 12:15:09 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_PlugFest_description plugfest template 12:15:57 jh: (puts note for PlutFest participants to put information on the f2f wiki) 12:17:09 ... if you have ideas, please contact me 12:17:27 ... we've reached two conclusions 12:17:43 ... feedback welcome on the ML 12:18:22 ... promise for one-shot event and callback for Feb. plugfest and documentation after that 12:18:55 ... next "Outreach and Ad-hoc meetings" 12:19:26 ... (skims the topics on the wiki) 12:19:42 [Frank Reusch] Impact of autonomous device networks on WoT 12:19:42 Breakouts 12:19:42 [t.b.d.] Scripting API vs REST/network API 12:19:42 [t.b.d.] What is the contract between application and platform? (Internet Media Types, new registry, ...) 12:19:42 [t.b.d.] Linking (related Interactions, sub-Things, groups, collections) 12:19:43 [Johannes] Subscriptions 12:19:45 [Matthias] Type system (collaboration with JSON Schema community to enable semantic annotations within the structure) 12:19:48 [Yongjing] Potential collaboration with oneM2M (informative implementation of oneM2M Mca/Mcc interfaces based on TD, information model mapping) 12:19:57 jh: we have open topics on scripting 12:20:14 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/240 Issue-240 12:20:23 jh: can prepare impose for that 12:20:37 ud: any way for remote participation? 12:20:45 ... for breakout sessions? 12:21:03 jh: there is a web-based questionnaire asking you about that 12:21:29 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201602/?&login f2f questionnaire 12:21:49 jh: there is a question about "4. Remote participation" 12:22:00 ... at some point, we should put all the information on the wiki as well 12:22:05 ... assign the room, etc. 12:22:09 ud: ok 12:22:29 jh: would like to add a section about that to the f2f wiki 12:23:15 ka: we can add a section to the wiki about "Remote participation" 12:23:27 q+ 12:23:27 ... which should include WebEx coordinate as well 12:24:30 dp: information on breakout topics and remote participants should be also put 12:26:17 jh: proposals on Scripting API (Client API/Server API) should be merged with Scripting API vs REST API? 12:26:41 zk: all the proposals are just the current status 12:26:52 ... so we need to have a f2f meeting 12:27:35 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/scripting/proposals/intel-proposal.md Intel's proposals 12:27:43 jh: they are good proposals 12:27:52 ... should be done as a separate session? 12:28:14 ... what we usually did is generating a topic list 12:28:34 zk: interested in all the topics 12:28:57 ... would say we should not use much time for "scripting vs REST" 12:29:08 ... what I expect is hands-on work from PlugFest 12:29:23 ... we can freeze the version of document based on that 12:30:07 ... wouldn't use much time for mapping for various protocols 12:30:15 s/protocols/protocols either/ 12:30:29 jh: we could do some scripting workshop 12:30:46 ... (updates the f2f wiki) 12:32:01 s/wiki/wiki with the topic of scripting workshop/ 12:32:19 -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara f2f wiki 12:32:41 jh: besides those, I don't have topics for today 12:32:56 ... to prepare for this workshop would be great 12:33:10 ... materials on GitHub 12:33:34 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/scripting Scripting area of GitHub 12:33:50 zk: Node.js version implementation? 12:34:11 jh: there is an opensource implementation 12:35:01 ... not on the W3C GitHub but a separate repo 12:35:21 -> https://github.com/thingweb/node-wot Node WoT repo 12:36:12 -> https://github.com/thingweb/node-wot/blob/master/src/wot-impl.ts wot-impl.ts 12:36:37 zk: probably a good demo to include various implementations 12:37:06 ... generic sensor API, Node.js-based one, etc. 12:37:21 ... we could create a new branch for testing 12:37:41 ... I would join that 12:38:11 jh: this implementation right now concentrates on protocol implementation 12:38:52 ... the basic idea you sketch could be part of this demo 12:39:33 ... already implemented in Java but being transferred to Node.js 12:40:37 ... there is a sample code for counter used in Beijing 12:40:41 -> https://github.com/thingweb/plugfest-scripts/blob/master/beijing072016/counter.js counter demo 12:41:02 zk: would like to see how you handle parameters 12:41:24 jh: can send an email 12:41:26 zk: ok 12:41:49 jh: Eclipse demo has timing information, etc. 12:42:55 ... can mail the scripts we used in the past 12:43:34 zk: fine by your sending emails 12:43:39 ... we can take it offline 12:43:57 jh: perfect timing for PlugFest to talk about that 12:44:04 ... any other topics for today? 12:44:08 (none) 12:44:23 rrsagent, make log public 12:44:29 [ adjourned ] 12:44:34 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:44:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/09-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:45:16 Meeting: WoT IG - Scripting TF 12:45:21 Chair: Johannes 12:45:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:45:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/09-wot-minutes.html kaz 14:27:27 Zakim has left #wot 15:32:24 Max has joined #wot 15:33:39 Max has joined #wot