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13:08:51 <kaz> scribenick: mkoster
13:08:59 <kaz> chair: Matthias
13:09:03 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_21_December_2016
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13:09:42 <kaz> topic: Agenda
13:09:43 <mkoster> rrware has update on plugfest
13:09:55 <mkoster> mccool has update on liaison with OCF
13:10:29 <kaz> present+ Uday_Davuluru
13:10:37 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_21_December_2016
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13:11:36 <mkoster> topic: f2f logistics
13:11:47 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Venue.2FDate f2f wiki
13:12:14 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Dec/0038.html Ryan's message
13:12:25 <kaz> q+
13:12:42 <mkoster> rrware: for hotel please email per rrware email above
13:13:01 <mkoster> rrware: what are networking requirements?
13:13:07 <kaz> present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama
13:13:35 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_PlugFest_description PlugFest template
13:13:35 <mkoster> mkovatc: wired ethernet uplink without special authentication
13:14:27 <mkoster> rrwware: large room 65 people, 10 person conference room, 10 person meeting space in the restaurant
13:15:13 <kaz> q-
13:15:24 <kaz> q+ to ask about the registration WBS
13:15:36 <mkoster> rrware: for invitation letter contact CIndy per rrware's note
13:15:40 <rrware> cindy.a.sirianni@intel.com
13:15:50 <kaz> s/CIndy/Cindy/
13:15:54 <kaz> q?
13:16:12 <katsu> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka
13:16:33 <mkoster> Kaz: will set up a questionnaire for participation
13:17:31 <kaz> action: kaz to set up a questionnaire for Santa Clara f2f
13:17:31 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Set up a questionnaire for santa clara f2f [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-28].
13:18:10 <kaz> present+ Tian
13:18:40 <rrware> http://www.booking.com/hotel/us/the-plaza-suites.html
13:20:18 <mkovatsc> q?
13:20:22 <kaz> ack k
13:20:22 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to ask about the registration WBS
13:20:51 <dape> q+ public IP for external PlugFest participants
13:20:55 <dape> q+
13:21:37 <dape> ack d
13:22:27 <kaz> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka
13:22:44 <mkovatsc> q?
13:23:12 <mkoster> mkovatsc: who will do tech support?
13:23:41 <mkoster> rrware: there will be hotel IT support
13:23:55 <mkoster> rrware: could also ask for local help
13:24:17 <mkoster> mccool: mainly network setup troubleshooting
13:25:17 <mkoster> mkovatsc: requirements for plugfest scenarios? sebastian is coordinating
13:25:28 <mkovatsc> q?
13:25:43 <mkoster> rrware: can contact rrware also for help
13:26:04 <mkoster> mkovatsc: please populate the plugfest wiki
13:26:44 <mkoster> mkovatsc: at least put in your name if you plan to join for now
13:27:06 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#PlugFest
13:27:06 <kaz> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Venue.2FDate
13:27:58 <mkoster> topic: ocf liaison
13:28:18 <mkoster> mccool: sharing screen
13:28:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-wot-comm-minutes.html Comm call minutes
13:28:42 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tracking_and_collaborating_with_IoT_industry_alliances_and_standards_development_organizations Liaison wiki
13:29:22 <kaz> -> https://github.com/mmccool/wot/blob/a9e934e52b2296a1088a82eb25ac27c1ca33864b/proposals/liaison-ocf/charter.md OCF Liaison TF Charter draft
13:29:32 <mkoster> mccool: wrote down some items and created a first draft charter
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13:30:29 <mkoster> mccool" people who are members of both groups to join, JST 11:00 Friday meeting
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13:30:56 <mkoster> mccool: layering on top of OCF and exposing OCF facilities using WoT
13:31:33 <kaz> present+ C_Ma
13:32:02 <mkoster> mccool: interoperability between OCF things and other WoT things
13:32:44 <kaz> q+
13:32:48 <mkoster> mccool: does a task force structure make sense for this, also in the context of IP
13:33:20 <kaz> ack k
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13:34:56 <mkoster> mccool: another goal is have access to OCF roadmap for alignment
13:35:31 <mkoster> mccool: another topic of interest is semantic web integration
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13:36:24 <mkoster> mccool: what are the use cases that define semantic web integration and application to WoT?
13:37:15 <mkoster> mccool: asking for feedback on the right approach to handle semantic web integration with WoT?
13:38:05 <mkoster> mccool: strawman charter for a semantic web task force
13:38:36 <mkovatsc> q+
13:38:53 <mkoster> jhund: current work in TD does cover some of this, for example linking
13:39:16 <DarkoAnicic> q+
13:39:30 <mkoster> mkovatsc: is it more about tooling around reasoning and validation?
13:39:47 <kaz> present+ Nan_Wang
13:40:09 <mkoster> mccool: clearly state the value of semantic web integration, what is it good for?
13:40:22 <mkoster> mccool: also use cases
13:41:06 <kaz> present+ Liu_Peiyun
13:41:24 <mkoster> mccool: attend next TD meeting and discuss
13:41:30 <kaz> present+ Takeshi_Yamada
13:41:41 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
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13:41:45 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:41:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:42:13 <mkoster> mkovatsc: discuss the scope of semantic web work; there is a lot connected to this
13:42:14 <mkovatsc> ack mkoster
13:42:30 <mkovatsc> ack mkovatsc
13:43:27 <mkoster> darko: some use case around discovery and tools for this are available
13:44:06 <mkoster> darko: for reasoning and higher level tools it may be out of scope, focus more on interoperability
13:44:34 <kaz> s/Kirby_Sabaga/Kirby_Shabaga/
13:44:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:44:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:45:33 <mkovatsc> q?
13:45:38 <mkovatsc> ack DarkoAnicic
13:46:16 <kaz> Meeting: Web of Things IG
13:46:40 <mkoster> jhund: discuss more in the next IG meeting
13:47:09 <mkoster> mkovatsc: need to focus on plugfest in the near future
13:47:35 <dape> q+
13:48:34 <dape> ack dape
13:48:56 <mkoster> dape: how would the IP access work?
13:49:25 <mkoster> mccool: the committee could keep it private, or the work could be based on public documents
13:50:32 <mkoster> mccool: the public standard from OCF may be 6 months behind the internal work
13:51:46 <mkoster> kaz: we may be able to use a public process for most of the work
13:52:03 <mkovatsc> q?
13:52:21 <mkoster> topic: current practices document
13:53:02 <mkoster> mkovatsc: document is updated, should we keep it open for updates from scripting API?
13:54:16 <mkoster> jhund: 2 major items in discussion; event handling in the framework and proposal on resource level API
13:55:15 <mkoster> jhund: need more discussion in this or scripting API meeting
13:56:44 <mkoster> mkovatsc: what is going into this next plugfest?
13:58:57 <mkoster> mkovatsc: it could be done as a technology demo for February
13:59:47 <mkoster> jhund: can work offline to see if it makes sense to include the new stuff
14:00:12 <mkoster> mkovatsc: try to resolve this by Friday
14:01:10 <mkoster> mkovatsc: mark it experimental/tech demo or integrate it into the mainstream
14:02:04 <mkoster> mkovatsc: to know whether to keep the document open or make more changes
14:02:47 <mkoster> mkovatsc: the question is do we want to keep it as is now, or add the new stuff (asap)
14:02:58 <mkovatsc> q?
14:03:48 <mkoster> mkovatsc: for security, there is a similar question, are we going to use the JWT scheme we already describe? what do we require?
14:04:09 <kaz> i/for security/topic: Security/
14:04:43 <mkovatsc> q?
14:05:03 <kaz> q+
14:05:04 <mkoster> mkovatsc: AOB?
14:05:51 <mkoster> kaz: will send another reminder on WG chairs call on Friday, also need to make a home page for the WG
14:06:39 <mkoster> mkovatsc: can adapt the IG content and repository to get the home page going quickly
14:07:34 <kaz> present+ Yonging_Zhang
14:08:26 <mkoster> yongjing: how can we publish the oneM2M liaison information to the group?
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14:09:34 <mkoster> kaz: can update the Wiki page, also could make a github repository, will discuss with chairs and cochairs
14:10:35 <kaz> s/with chairs and cochairs/with both the WG co-Chairs and the IG co-Chairs/
14:10:53 <mkoster> yongjing: is the F2F agenda decided yet, need details for planning purposes
14:11:41 <mkoster> mkovatsc: let us know the constraints and we can take into account
14:12:26 <kaz> s/can update the Wiki page, also could make a github repository,/will chat with the W3C Liaison Team first, and then can update the WoT Liaison wiki. Also could make a github repo if needed./
14:12:41 <mkoster> mkovatsc: do some outreach in the bay area locally, e.g. Google and invite to open day
14:13:05 <mkovatsc> q?
14:13:11 <kaz> ack k
14:13:14 <mkoster> mkovatsc: AOB?
14:14:26 <mkoster> mkovatsc: next call on 1/11
14:14:33 <mkoster> mkovatsc: adjourned
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14:15:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:15:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:16:38 <kaz> action: kaz to send out a reminder to the WG co-Chairs about the planning call and the WG page
14:16:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Send out a reminder to the wg co-chairs about the planning call and the wg page [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-28].
14:17:23 <kaz> action: kaz to talk with the W3C Liaison Team about the oneM2M liaison and send the liaison letter to the group (also talk with the IG/WG co-Chairs about how to manage the liaison history)
14:17:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-84 - Talk with the w3c liaison team about the onem2m liaison and send the liaison letter to the group (also talk with the ig/wg co-chairs about how to manage the liaison history) [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-28].
14:17:26 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:17:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-wot-minutes.html kaz
14:18:01 <kaz> i/AOB?/topic: AOB/
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