See also: IRC log
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0044.html
Steven: "Does anyone have any objection to describing it as a Single Item Binding?"
Alain: OK for me
Philip: Yes
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0047.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0045.html
Steven: "If a binding evaluates to an empty sequence, any contained bindings are
not evaluated. "
Steven: Do we need this
sentence?
... What would stop working?
<ebruchez> <group ref="()"><input ref="."/></group>
Erik: What examples would be covered?
<ebruchez> <group ref="()"><input ref="instance()"/></group>
Erik: There are two aspects
... if a group is non-relevant, the contents is
non-relevant
... from an XPath viewpoint, you could have an expression that
evaluates properly
Steven: This example:
<group ref="()"><output ref="1"/></group>
Steven: ASo you say that if we don't have that line, this would still output 1?
Erik: It is a question of relevance
Steven: So my question remains. Are there examples for the need of the original sentence?
<ebruchez> <bind ref="()"><bind ref="instance()"></bind>
S/ASo/So/
Steven: I think in this case the inner bind would work
<ebruchez> <bind ref="1 to 10"><bind ref="instance()"></bind>
<ebruchez> <bind ref="a"><bind ref="instance()"></bind>
Erik: And there are ten a's
... I would get 10 inner binds
... and with 0 a's I would get one inner bind
... so this sentence ensures that you get no inner binds.
Steven: Thanks for the example. Then the sentence stays.
Erik: Though I'm only half
convinced
... bind is a Sequence binding which we handle, and so the
inner bind doesn't get evaluated.
Steven: I see what you mean.
Erik: Yes, my binding example
would work fine with or without the sentence.
... I think relevance takes care of all other cases.
... so I think you can remove the sentence.
Steven: Alright. Great.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Nov/0090.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0036.html
Steven: I put this on the agenda
because I realised we don't have any error events that allow
you to proceed without further action.
... and while I was rewriting the text I got cold feet. But I
have now persuaded myself that generating an error event is OK;
you can still catch it and ignore it.
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0006.html
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2016Dec/0030.html
Steven: It looks like a good
proposal
... but I need more time to think about the design and
consequences
Erik: Trying to implement this is very specific in XForms, without any real control
Steven: Is there a lot of demand for multipart?
Alain: We implemented
... I think it gets used.
Steven: I see a lot of similarities in your proposal Erik with how we treat headers for instance, so I think we can unify the treatment.
Steven: Next call is January 11th\
<scribe> ACTION: Steven to make submission/@ref a Single Item Binding [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-forms-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2106 - Make submission/@ref a single item binding [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-12-28].
<scribe> ACTION: Steve to adopt new Evaluation Context text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-forms-minutes.html#action02]
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<scribe> ACTION: Steven to adopt new Evaluation Context text [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/21-forms-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-2107 - Adopt new evaluation context text [on Steven Pemberton - due 2016-12-28].
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