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14:01:46 <ddahl> trackbot, start telcon
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14:01:52 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MMI
14:01:52 <trackbot> Meeting: Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference
14:01:52 <trackbot> Date: 19 December 2016
14:01:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
14:01:58 <ddahl> scribe: ddahl
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14:02:15 <ddahl> chair:Debbie_Dahl
14:02:41 <ddahl> regrets:helena
14:02:55 <ddahl> present:Dirk, Kaz, Debbie
14:03:32 <ddahl> topic:actions
14:04:01 <ddahl> action-454?
14:04:01 <trackbot> action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN
14:04:01 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454
14:04:08 <ddahl> debbie: still need to do that
14:04:21 <ddahl> action-457?
14:04:21 <trackbot> action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN
14:04:21 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457
14:04:52 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html#Template_for_Use_Cases uc template
14:06:25 <ddahl> kaz: added diagram
14:06:38 <ddahl> debbie: we should remove the old tables, then
14:07:04 <ddahl> dirk: what is an entity?
14:07:50 <ddahl> kaz: specific systems could include human beings or devices, so "entity" could be used to mean either one
14:07:59 <ddahl> dirk: should we make this more specific?
14:08:27 <ddahl> debbie: should we explain "entities" in the template?
14:08:58 <ddahl> kaz: maybe a sentence or so
14:09:42 <ddahl> debbie: some WoT discussion was about properties and actions
14:09:58 <ddahl> kaz: maybe we can copy the definition from WoT to this document
14:10:34 <ddahl> debbie: all the arcs are labeled as "property", but aren't there also actions?
14:10:46 <ddahl> ...we could include a label like property/action
14:11:26 <ddahl> action-464?
14:11:26 <trackbot> action-464 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Write more about uc-7 -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN
14:11:26 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464
14:12:01 <ddahl> kaz: didn't do anything for this one
14:12:21 <ddahl> close action-457
14:12:21 <trackbot> Closed action-457.
14:12:33 <ddahl> topic: discovery comments
14:13:08 <ddahl> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0003.html
14:13:29 <ddahl> sections 1-3
14:14:45 <ddahl> dirk: I don't think a standard should contain languages like "suggestions". this should help Helena go over the document and improve the wording
14:15:06 <ddahl> debbie: is there anything specific we should discuss?
14:16:33 <ddahl> dirk: in the introduction, we say that we don't know of other discovery work, but there is some and we should explain how it's related to our work
14:16:51 <ddahl> debbie: it might be different, but we should explain how
14:18:32 <ddahl> dirk: we should avoid "Multimodal Framework" unless we plan to standardize it in the future
14:19:15 <kaz> i|sections 1-3|-> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-mmi-mc-discovery-20160411/ Discovery draft|
14:21:07 <ddahl> dirk: should we remove "multimodal framework" from figure 1?
14:21:51 <ddahl> dirk: we could remove the outer box in figure 2 without losing anything
14:22:21 <ddahl> ...also, how do the resources manager and the interaction manager communicate?
14:23:11 <ddahl> debbie: what is the gray box that contains the interaction manager and the resources manager?
14:23:31 <ddahl> ...helena could explain that we'll discuss the communication later
14:26:53 <kaz> topic: Draft Charter
14:26:57 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/charter-2016/Overview.html draft charter
14:33:12 <ddahl> kaz: in a new charter we could cooperate more closely with the WoT and Accessibility
14:34:42 <ddahl> ...we could clarify what needs to be done for the next generation of web technology (WoT and Accessibility)
14:38:56 <ddahl> ...what is the role of multimodality and accessibility for the WoT
14:40:02 <ddahl> kaz: we should think about the things world, accessibility world, and the mmi world, how can users interact with these three pieces?
14:41:05 <ddahl> debbie: we could draw a nice diagram for these three pieces
14:46:52 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/03/MMI.jpg previous charter diagram
14:49:53 <ddahl> debbie: we could simplify this and add more about the WoT
15:03:02 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
15:03:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft mintues
15:03:07 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
15:03:13 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:03:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/19-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
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