17:59:02 RRSAgent has joined #webauthn 17:59:02 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/12/14-webauthn-irc 17:59:04 RRSAgent, make logs public 17:59:04 Zakim has joined #webauthn 17:59:06 Zakim, this will be 17:59:06 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 17:59:07 Meeting: Web Authentication Working Group Teleconference 17:59:07 Date: 14 December 2016 18:01:37 Rolf has joined #webauthn 18:02:12 JeffH has joined #webauthn 18:02:21 present+ JeffH 18:02:37 weiler has changed the topic to: agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2016Dec/0080.html 18:02:41 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webauthn/2016Dec/0080.html 18:02:44 present+ 18:03:20 regrets+ wseltzer 18:03:42 zakim, who's here? 18:03:42 Present: JeffH, weiler 18:03:44 On IRC I see JeffH, Rolf, Zakim, RRSAgent, weiler, rrware, adrianba, schuki, mkwst, hyojin, slightlyoff, aaronpk, jcj_moz, wseltzer, trackbot, ted 18:03:49 gmandyam has joined #webauthn 18:05:33 angelo has joined #webauthn 18:06:09 samsrinivas has joined #webauthn 18:06:31 present+ 18:06:38 present+ jcj_moz 18:07:17 present+ nadalin 18:07:20 chair: nadalin 18:07:43 present+ angelo 18:07:52 present+ Christian 18:08:02 present+ gmandyam 18:08:14 i can scribe 18:08:18 present+ Rolf 18:08:42 scribenick: samsrinivas 18:08:58 present+ samsrinivas 18:09:04 Keep meeting for rest of year? 18:10:09 tony: Conclusion: Keep next week, cancel following week 18:10:52 tony: f2f, Feb 13 in downtown SF (MS Office), same as first f2f, 555 Calif Ave, SF 18:12:50 zakim, who's here? 18:12:50 Present: JeffH, weiler, samsrinivas, jcj_moz, nadalin, angelo, Christian, gmandyam, Rolf 18:12:52 On IRC I see samsrinivas, angelo, gmandyam, JeffH, Rolf, Zakim, RRSAgent, weiler, rrware, adrianba, schuki, mkwst, hyojin, slightlyoff, aaronpk, jcj_moz, wseltzer, trackbot, ted 18:14:24 jc, tony, jeff: jeff's editorial cleanup, batch of changes, how often merge, editorial fixes, resync now (per Alexei), merge these changes .. 18:15:04 jeff: Should review, editorial in one person's eyes may not be editorial for another 18:15:07 jc: will take a look 18:23:20 jeff: 209 does not describe user perspective, should have terms like 'roaming' or 'portable'. This is important since it'll permate into user docs. 18:24:27 How does one characterize based on whetehr they store keys? 18:24:39 Jeff: Even such authenticators can roam. 18:24:55 Jeff: it is transparent to the RP 18:26:15 sam: +1 to jeff 18:26:46 suggestion: Roaming = can login on fresh device, RP should send down keys 18:27:00 Jeff: That happens transparently from the RP's perspective. 18:27:32 Jeff: You are bootstrapping a new device to login to an RP which is already registered with the authenticator. 18:29:18 Jeff: not in a rush, should merge after Alexei, Vijay etc review -- core suggestion is to refine terminology so that there are terms which are user facing in the spec so that user documentation uses right term 18:30:51 Suggestion: is there a use case where eg, phone: for on board browser = native authenitcator, for use to login on other device = roaming. 18:31:05 Jeff: That is about attachment -- should be covered by the terminology we use. 18:31:12 diff for #309: https://github.com/w3c/webauthn/pull/309/files 18:31:59 Jeff: webidl encourages dashes and not underscores .. 18:32:21 Tony: WD-04 moved out to January 18:32:35 Tony: We have 50 or so issues 18:33:21 Tony: We did get a charter extension for 6 months without any issues, but hopefully we won't chew into it very much, people want to get to implementation phase 18:33:44 Tony: Some folks may talk about it publcly in Feb-Mar time frame. 18:35:45 https://reviewboard.mozilla.org/r/97088/diff/3/ 18:35:53 Jeff: It seems to be me that the spec is nominally implementable at this point. 18:36:55 JC: Have a work in progress patch which I have out in FF which is using the Sep 28 version of the spec. Been through one round of review doesn't have USB transport yet 18:37:45 JC: 1200 lines of code, lots of boiler plate, yet to do same-origin, this was about to wire in U2F (as prep for webauthn) 18:38:48 edge has implemented wd-02 (?) 18:39:00 algelo reported 18:39:06 Angelo: Edge has WD-02 implmentation. We are concerned about a few things, the Google proposal of name change, code change will be limited, don't want to do a lot of wasted work, want to wait out to CR 18:40:37 Jeff: Name change should not affect code very much (these chanegs were from Boris, not Google), ... 18:40:51 Angelo: Other open issues such as timeouts etc. 18:41:34 Jeff: Please nominate on the list what issues should be converged sooner rather than later if they are getting in way of implementation. 18:41:43 Angelo: How will be maintain extensions is one more issue. 18:42:52 Angelo: We are not planning to have this as part of IE -- the focus is on Edge. 18:43:31 Samsrinivas: Will defer to ALexei , Kim for Google impl status (future call) 18:43:59 giri: Put up prooposal for how to get stuff in regsitry 18:44:02 Jeff: will take look 18:44:28 Concall coordinates may change -- email will go out. 18:44:59 Tony: Meeting happens on Dec 21, cancelld oN Dec 28, jappens on Jan 3 18:45:13 Zakim, list participants 18:45:13 As of this point the attendees have been JeffH, weiler, samsrinivas, jcj_moz, nadalin, angelo, Christian, gmandyam, Rolf 18:45:21 RRSAgent, make log public 18:45:27 RRSAgent, generate minutes 18:45:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/14-webauthn-minutes.html weiler 18:45:41 RRSAgent, make log public 18:53:22 zakim, goodbye 18:53:22 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been JeffH, weiler, samsrinivas, jcj_moz, nadalin, angelo, Christian, gmandyam, Rolf 18:53:22 Zakim has left #webauthn 18:53:27 rrsagent, goodbye 18:53:27 I'm logging. I don't understand 'goodbye', weiler. Try /msg RRSAgent help