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14:01:47 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MMI
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14:01:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference
14:01:47 <trackbot> Date: 05 December 2016
14:02:12 <ddahl> chair: Debbie_Dahl
14:02:33 <ddahl> scribe: ddahl
14:02:45 <ddahl> topic: actions
14:03:24 <ddahl> action-443?
14:03:24 <trackbot> action-443 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Write up the use case of millions of images from tpac and send to the group list -- due 2016-06-27 -- OPEN
14:03:24 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/443
14:03:55 <ddahl> helena: did not get to this
14:05:02 <ddahl> debbie: we talked about this UC last week
14:05:54 <ddahl> ...coordinating video from thousands of people at an event
14:05:55 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/12/01-multimodal-minutes.html EMMA minutes
14:06:36 <ddahl> kaz: we can start with hundreds or thousands of components, including small sensors and home appliances
14:06:48 <ddahl> ...that would make this UC more concrete
14:07:43 <ddahl> ...the people in the stadium could communicate with some kind of web service linked to an online game
14:08:01 <ddahl> ...Japanese hybrid TV system provides this kind of capability
14:08:16 <ddahl> ...at an actual game that might be nicer and more fun
14:09:34 <ddahl> helena: that's a good idea. I saw a concert two years ago sending information to the iPhones of people to show the colors of the light
14:09:52 <ddahl> ...sending information to the stage is a good idea
14:10:20 <ddahl> kaz: from the MMI viewpoint this is similar to UC-23, sharing whiteboard
14:10:39 <ddahl> ...we can use any kind of information modality for information exchange
14:10:56 <ddahl> debbie: should we combine those use cases?
14:11:20 <ddahl> kaz: we can handle them separately for now
14:12:21 <ddahl> debbie: they're very similar but keeping them separate might tease out different requirements (like UC-23 has a moderator)
14:12:47 <ddahl> action-454?
14:12:47 <trackbot> action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN
14:12:47 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454
14:12:54 <ddahl> debbie: still haven't done that
14:13:10 <ddahl> action-457?
14:13:10 <trackbot> action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN
14:13:10 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457
14:13:58 <ddahl> kaz: did not do that one, but did the others
14:14:29 <ddahl> action-458?
14:14:29 <trackbot> action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN
14:14:29 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458
14:14:57 <ddahl> helena: very late on this task
14:15:12 <ddahl> action-462?
14:15:12 <trackbot> action-462 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Put software in github -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN
14:15:12 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/462
14:16:07 <ddahl> helena: have the code but don't know where to put it
14:16:29 <ddahl> ...how to create the repository?
14:17:01 <ddahl> kaz: can create a bin folder and put the software there
14:17:19 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/mmi
14:17:33 <kaz> s/mmi/mmi repository/
14:17:35 <ddahl> ...you should use the MMI repository for the software, since it's related to the MMI architecture
14:18:08 <ddahl> kaz: you can create a subdirectory there
14:19:04 <ddahl> helena: can create "lib" for libraries
14:19:27 <ddahl> action-463?
14:19:28 <trackbot> action-463 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Talk with johannes about a good time for an mmi/wot call, possibly during scripting time slot -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN
14:19:28 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463
14:19:55 <ddahl> kaz: sent message to Johannes about this
14:20:13 <ddahl> kaz: we can do that next Monday
14:20:41 <ddahl> debbie: let's leave open until we actually have the call
14:20:53 <ddahl> action-464?
14:20:53 <trackbot> action-464 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Write more about uc-7 -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN
14:20:53 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464
14:21:17 <kaz> s/bin folder/bin (tools, software or lib) folder/
14:21:22 <ddahl> debbie: related to action-465
14:21:45 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html updated uc doc
14:22:59 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html#UC-19_Handling_millions_of_components uc-19 (fist one)
14:23:45 <ddahl> kaz: duplicates of UC-19
14:23:49 <ddahl> ...should be merged
14:25:14 <ddahl> kaz: is the class the platform or various MC's, for the merged UC
14:25:41 <ddahl> debbie: maybe should be both
14:26:25 <ddahl> debbie: does the MC know there are millions of other MC's?
14:27:05 <ddahl> kaz: maybe not the MC's but the middle layer (e.g. fission/fusion) should know
14:28:13 <ddahl> ...maybe saying "massive" instead of "millions"
14:28:57 <ddahl> ...like massive numbers of online games
14:29:18 <ddahl> debbie: or like MOOC's
14:29:54 <kaz> -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massively_multiplayer_online_role-playing_game MMORPG
14:30:54 <ddahl> kaz: UC-18 was removed and merged into UC-7
14:31:47 <ddahl> close action-465
14:31:47 <trackbot> Closed action-465.
14:32:10 <ddahl> action-466?
14:32:10 <trackbot> action-466 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Restructure the uc document with priority ones vs others -- due 2016-12-05 -- OPEN
14:32:10 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/466
14:34:23 <ddahl> close action-466
14:34:23 <trackbot> Closed action-466.
14:34:55 <ddahl> kaz: can try some background for each UC
14:35:49 <ddahl> action-467?
14:35:49 <trackbot> action-467 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Add uc-23 to the toc -- due 2016-12-05 -- OPEN
14:35:49 <trackbot> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/467
14:36:11 <ddahl> kaz: added
14:36:20 <ddahl> close action-467
14:36:20 <trackbot> Closed action-467.
14:36:43 <ddahl> topic: draft charter
14:37:16 <kaz> -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/charter-2016/Overview.html draft charter
14:37:41 <ddahl> kaz: got the latest charter template and copied the old content
14:38:18 <ddahl> ...the updated charter should be restricted
14:38:28 <ddahl> ...so that it's not too big
14:39:29 <ddahl> debbie: the important part is the work to do
14:40:27 <ddahl> debbie: we should separate the maintenance from the actual work
14:41:06 <ddahl> kaz: we should simplify the diagram
14:43:12 <ddahl> ...a simpler diagram would be easier to understand
14:49:54 <ddahl> kaz: should we have a concrete document on MMI implementation with a fusion/fission layer
14:50:16 <ddahl> debbie: that sounds like a Note
14:52:17 <ddahl> debbie: the accessibility groups have different names
14:52:48 <ddahl> ...we should coordinate with the Voice Interaction Community Group
14:52:56 <ddahl> ...and the VB group is ended
14:53:00 <kaz> kaz: we should check the WG/IG name page (and CG/BG page)
14:54:37 <ddahl> debbie: simplify the diagram, take out or at least deemphasize the work we probably won't do
14:54:54 <ddahl> ...clean up references to other groups
14:58:32 <ddahl> debbie: can we have another draft by next week/
14:58:40 <ddahl> s///?
14:59:10 <kaz> s|week/|week?|
14:59:46 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:59:50 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:59:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
15:00:03 <ddahl> topic: Discovery and Registration
15:00:29 <ddahl> helena: Dirk's comments should be addresses
15:00:41 <ddahl> s/addresses/addressed
15:00:41 <kaz> s|s///?||
15:00:41 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:00:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
15:01:20 <ddahl> debbie: we can talk to Dirk next week and also by email
15:01:53 <kaz> present+ Debbie, Helena, Kaz
15:01:56 <kaz> regrets: Dirk
15:02:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:02:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
15:03:05 <helena> helena has left #multimodal
15:03:11 <ddahl> [adjourned]
15:07:29 <kaz> rrsagent, bye
15:07:29 <RRSAgent> I see no action items