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16:01:40 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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16:01:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
16:01:44 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
16:01:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
16:01:45 <trackbot> Date: 10 November 2016
16:01:51 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:01:57 <addison> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:01:57 <r12a> hmm, webex isn't connecting me...
16:01:57 <Loqi> r12a: aaronpk left you a message 1 week, 2 days ago: when you get a chance can you review the resolution on this? I thought we had talked about it in Lisbon but the thread didn't get updated https://github.com/w3c/Micropub/issues/36#issuecomment-236963548 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/183 Thanks!
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16:02:04 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
16:02:49 <addison> Thanks Loqi
16:02:53 <Loqi> you're welcome
16:03:00 <addison> Regrets+ Steve
16:03:12 <addison> Regrets+ Felix
16:03:55 <John_C_Klensin> Present+ JcK
16:04:32 <addison> Present+ Addison
16:04:35 <addison> Present+ Richard
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16:06:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:06:44 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Nov/0001.html
16:08:43 <r12a> loqi, not seeing any message from Aaronpk in my mail mountain - i'm a bit confused - did you mean https://github.com/w3c/pubsub/issues/33 ?
16:10:33 <addison> Topic: Action Items
16:11:50 <addison> action-560?
16:11:50 <trackbot> action-560 -- Richard Ishida to Establish a process for auto-publishing updates to encoding on a regular basis -- due 2016-10-06 -- OPEN
16:11:50 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/560
16:12:06 <addison> richard: sent some email to addison, list of things have to happen
16:12:19 <addison> ... anne sent a note saying his bikeshedding doc
16:12:44 <addison> ... action should be done
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16:12:50 <addison> ... Encoding update published today
16:12:54 <addison> close action-560
16:12:54 <trackbot> Closed action-560.
16:13:21 <aaronpk> r12a: Loqi's a bot, the message in IRC is the message I left you :)
16:13:36 <aaronpk> This is the issue https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/183
16:14:40 <addison> action: richard: figure out how to use bikeshed to publish encoding on TR
16:14:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-567 - Figure out how to use bikeshed to publish encoding on tr [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-11-17].
16:15:10 <addison> close action-565
16:15:10 <trackbot> Closed action-565.
16:15:31 <addison> Topic: Info Share
16:15:40 <addison> richard: Encoding published
16:15:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:15:59 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/css-text-shaping.en.html
16:16:08 <addison> richard: a link to a set of potentially useful tests
16:16:21 <addison> ... look at cursive joining in arabic across elements such as span
16:17:01 <addison> ... could be useful reference from time to time
16:17:07 <addison> addison: cool---some browsers work
16:19:48 <addison> http://rtl.wtf
16:19:52 <Loqi> Welcome to online directionality flipping
16:22:55 <joconner> present+ joconner
16:25:44 <addison> Topic: Review Radar
16:25:45 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
16:26:21 <joconner> present+ [joconner]
16:29:58 <addison> action: addison: write to Liam and ask about the changes in QT 3.1 so that we can do a targetted review
16:29:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-568 - Write to liam and ask about the changes in qt 3.1 so that we can do a targetted review [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-11-17].
16:34:14 <addison> Topic: Closing Comments
16:34:22 <addison> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Nov/0004.html
16:35:53 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/198
16:36:55 <addison> close
16:36:57 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/199
16:38:09 <addison> +      The properties of external resources, such as Bodies and Targets, included in the Annotation document are intended as hints to the client, and are not to be considered authoritative information. This includes properties such as the created time, the creating agent, the modification time, any rights assertions, format, language or text direction of the external resource.
16:38:26 <addison> close
16:38:34 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/201
16:39:45 <addison> close
16:39:52 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/202
16:40:43 <addison> wontfix is good. close
16:40:50 <addison> •  ed sugg: textDirection #348    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/204
16:41:35 <addison> close
16:41:42 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/203
16:42:35 <addison> close
16:42:43 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/233
16:43:09 <addison> close
16:43:17 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/225
16:43:50 <addison> close
16:43:57 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/226
16:44:21 <addison> close
16:44:28 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/227
16:45:06 <addison> close
16:45:17 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/182
16:45:39 <addison> close
16:45:51 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/181
16:45:52 <addison> close
16:46:00 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/183
16:48:18 <addison> relative unhappiness although willing to close
16:48:48 <addison> action: addison: respond to issue 183 on micropub assenting to closing the issue but noting our relative dissatisfaction
16:48:49 <trackbot> Created ACTION-569 - Respond to issue 183 on micropub assenting to closing the issue but noting our relative dissatisfaction [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-11-17].
16:49:04 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/176
16:49:58 <addison> richard: a couple ed nits left but we can close
16:50:02 <addison> close
16:50:10 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/184
16:50:34 <addison> close
16:50:40 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/178
16:51:32 <addison> close
16:51:41 <addison>    https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/177
16:51:48 <addison> close
16:52:30 <addison> action: richard: close all minuted issues and notify the owning working group of our satisfaction
16:52:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-570 - Close all minuted issues and notify the owning working group of our satisfaction [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-11-17].
16:52:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
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16:53:05 <addison> Present+ Koji
16:53:27 <koji> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/24
16:53:45 <koji> Chrome issue https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=544402#c11
16:55:11 <addison> action: richard: follow up on I18N issue 24 and see that an issue is raised on the font in question
16:55:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-571 - Follow up on i18n issue 24 and see that an issue is raised on the font in question [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-11-17].
16:56:04 <addison> Topic: Najib's comment
16:56:08 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/246#issuecomment-259119169
16:56:41 <addison> issue about joining across spans
16:56:54 <addison> ... najib talking about how ZWJ works
16:57:14 <addison> richard: i18n-discuss
16:57:19 <addison> ... ?
16:57:45 <addison> koji: shaping across elements is a hot topic
16:59:15 <addison> richard: want to move
16:59:56 <addison> action: richard: move najib's comment to an appropriate location for further discussion
16:59:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-572 - Move najib's comment to an appropriate location for further discussion [on Richard Ishida - due 2016-11-17].
16:59:59 <addison> Topic: AOB?
17:00:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
17:02:01 <addison> zakim, bye
17:02:01 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been JcK, Addison, Richard, joconner, [joconner], Koji
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17:02:05 <addison> rrsagent, make minutes
17:02:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-minutes.html addison
17:02:08 <addison> rrsagent, bye
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-actions.rdf :
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: figure out how to use bikeshed to publish encoding on TR [1]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-14-40
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: write to Liam and ask about the changes in QT 3.1 so that we can do a targetted review [2]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-29-58
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: respond to issue 183 on micropub assenting to closing the issue but noting our relative dissatisfaction [3]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-48-48
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: close all minuted issues and notify the owning working group of our satisfaction [4]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-52-30
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: follow up on I18N issue 24 and see that an issue is raised on the font in question [5]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-55-11
17:02:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: move najib's comment to an appropriate location for further discussion [6]
17:02:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/11/10-i18n-irc#T16-59-56