07:55:31 RRSAgent has joined #wot-td 07:55:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-wot-td-irc 08:00:56 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Sebastian_Kaebisch 08:03:40 present+ Alex_Owen, Yingying_Chen 08:03:44 taki has joined #wot-td 08:05:38 present+ Takkuki_Kamiya 08:09:17 scribenick: kaz 08:09:20 sebastian has joined #wot-td 08:09:44 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Nov/0007.html 08:10:12 seba: the main goal for today is discussing the open issues on GitHub 08:10:30 ... close or keep it open 08:10:40 ... also some logistics discussion 08:10:47 ... how to continue this call 08:10:52 topic: Open Issues 08:11:01 seba: would like to go through the open issues 08:11:15 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/247 08:11:35 seba: there are 40 comments there 08:11:55 ... need to find clear definition of property and action 08:13:01 ... we could keep this open 08:13:57 ... please provide your comments 08:14:12 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/256 08:14:22 seba: raised by Dave 08:14:50 ... would let this also open and see the discussion more 08:15:33 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/257 08:15:43 seba: need some more use cases 08:15:50 ... still need more discussion 08:16:27 ... please comment on this as well 08:16:32 ... keep this open 08:16:50 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/264 08:16:57 seba: not much discussion about this so far 08:17:32 ... had small chat on parameters at some conference 08:18:11 ... all the inputted data would become parameters in the end based on REST interface 08:19:02 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/263 08:19:23 seba: description flag, etc. 08:19:27 ... kind of icon term 08:19:39 ... we can make a link to a JPEG file, for example 08:19:47 ... to invoke Web UI 08:20:05 ... there is some work by IANA 08:20:12 s/work/resource/ 08:20:24 ... not concrete conclusion yet 08:20:46 ... core TD or another context to handle meta information? 08:21:05 ... to be considered for the next Current Practice document 08:21:48 ... are there any comments? 08:21:50 q+ 08:21:55 victor has joined #wot-td 08:22:16 kaz: comment on: https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/264 08:23:22 ... there could be two possibilities 08:23:29 ... 1. convert from REST parameter to TD parameter 08:23:51 ... 2. simply copy the inputted REST parameter as literal or comment 08:25:13 ... for the case #2, TD processor doesn't have to understand the parameter but simply transfer that to the Protocol Binding and the device 08:25:52 seba: (shows the Current Practice document's section 3.2.1) 08:27:08 @@@ 08:27:31 seba: also shows issue 255's example 08:27:45 [[ 08:27:49 { 08:27:50 "@context": "http://w3c.github.io/wot/w3c-wot-td-context.jsonld", 08:27:50 "name" : "MyLED", 08:27:50 "interactions": [ 08:27:50 { 08:27:50 "@type": ["Property","Event"], 08:27:54 "name": "status", 08:27:56 "outputData": {"valueType": { "type": "string" }, 08:27:58 "endpoints" : [ { 08:28:00 "url" : "coap://192.163.0.2/status", 08:28:02 "encoding" : "application/exi" 08:28:04 }]}}] 08:28:06 } 08:28:08 ]] 08:28:10 seba: we could have a container for metadata 08:29:00 ... using the "endpoints" notation 08:29:50 kaz: right 08:30:16 ... and another question is that sometimes we don't have to or don't want to convert all the REST parameters into TD parameters 08:30:41 ... and might want to have "misc" or "not-to-translate" or something for those parameters 08:30:51 seba: need more discussion about that 08:31:05 ack k 08:31:11 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/251 08:31:32 yingying has joined #wot-td 08:31:45 seba: replacing encodings using mimetypes 08:32:16 -> http://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml IANA's Media Type definition 08:32:46 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/253 08:34:21 kaz: so we'll apply those proposals (251, 253) and use Mime Types to specify encodings. right? 08:34:21 seba: yes 08:34:49 ... those issues are already closed 08:35:05 rrsagent, make minutes 08:35:05 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-wot-td-minutes.html yingying 08:35:52 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/262 08:36:13 seba: outstanding updates for the Current Practices document 08:36:31 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/258 08:37:35 seba: oneM2M has datapoints besides of properties, actions and events 08:37:56 (this is closed) 08:38:24 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/255 08:38:37 (this is also closed) 08:39:09 s/document/document - issue 251, 253, 258 and 255/ 08:39:23 topic: Volunteers needed 08:39:39 seba: volunteers needed to update the WoT Current Practices document 08:40:00 ... as an editor and/or a reviewer 08:40:21 present+ Victor_Charpenay 08:41:02 ... would like to ask people for help including those who raised issues :) 08:41:23 ... will write a message directly to them 08:41:38 topic: Next steps 08:42:05 seba: should we keep this time slot for the TD discussion? 08:42:27 ... weekly, bi-weekly or on-demand? 08:43:39 https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues/263 08:43:51 s/263/259/ 08:44:49 seba: this is still open 08:44:54 ... and takes a lot of time 08:45:39 ... what do you think about the WebEx calls? 08:46:03 taki: short calls like 0.5 hour would be helpful 08:46:42 seba: should we use this slot? 08:47:27 ... what do you think? 08:47:36 yingying: short call would be ok 08:48:24 kaz: I think 30 mins would be too short 08:48:25 kaz, please can you reeat or write it to irc 08:48:29 maybe 1 hour? 08:51:44 katsu has joined #wot-td 08:52:11 seba: we can use 1-hour slot, and if there is not many topics we can end the call earlier 08:52:22 s/maybe/... maybe/ 08:52:55 ... also given it's very late in US pacific, would suggest we make the time one hour earlier 08:53:59 kaz: I'll allocate a WebEx for that purpose and send the coordinate to you all 08:54:10 present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka 08:54:16 seba: is that OK by you, Naka-san? 08:54:21 naka: yes 08:54:29 seba: ok 08:54:37 ... let's meet next week then 08:56:08 thanks for scribing kaz 08:56:22 [ adjourned ] 08:56:47 rrsagent, make log public 08:56:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 08:56:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-wot-td-minutes.html kaz 09:10:33 kaz has joined #wot-td 10:15:11 Hi kaz :) Sorry I couldn't make the meeting. Bad time for me. So I'm just lurking. 10:43:13 yingying has joined #wot-td 10:44:07 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 12:09:25 Zakim has left #wot-td 12:27:18 kaz has joined #wot-td 13:02:09 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 13:03:17 ying_ying has joined #wot-td 14:33:29 yingying_ has joined #wot-td 16:01:26 kaz has joined #wot-td