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16:31:00 <kaz> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-autowebplatform/2016Nov/0000.html
16:31:24 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Paul_Boyes, Philippe_Robin, Rudi_Streif
16:32:26 <kaz> present+ Ryan_Davis, Stacy_Janes
16:32:33 <kaz> present+ Adam_Crofts
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16:36:38 <kaz> topic: tuner update
16:36:46 <kaz> ryan: gives update
16:37:33 <kaz> ... lot of use cases are similar
16:42:22 <kaz> topic: VW proposal
16:42:48 <kaz> paul: VW attended the f2f meeting in Burlingame and explained their proposal
16:43:17 <kaz> ... Kevin sent a note
16:43:27 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-autowebplatform/2016Nov/0001.html Kevin's note
16:43:46 <kaz> paul: any comments?
16:44:01 <kaz> i/gives update/gives update on the TV Control WG's work/
16:44:15 <kaz> topic: LBS
16:44:39 <kaz> present+ Wonsuk_Lee
16:44:57 <kaz> philippe: Philippe Colliot is busy now
16:45:15 <kaz> ... btw, there is news on Toyota's announcement on vehicle connectivity
16:45:32 <kaz> -> http://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/detail/14129306
16:45:59 <kaz> pr: KDDI is mentioned here
16:46:02 <kaz> paul: good to know
16:47:34 <kaz> topic: Genivi security
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16:48:11 <kaz> rudi: mentions Genivi's security work
16:48:22 <kaz> paul: opportunity to learn about security more?
16:48:33 <kaz> rudi: not completely open but there is a mailinglist
16:48:40 <kaz> ... and you can join it
16:49:40 <kaz> ... corporation address should be used instead of free mail address
16:50:24 <kaz> topic: Geolocation API
16:50:37 <kaz> kaz: Edited REC has just been published
16:51:09 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-geolocation-API-20161108/ Geolocation API Edited REC
16:51:16 <kaz> topic: Redefining BG role
16:51:54 <kaz> wonsuk: looking at the existing BG Charter, think we should update it
16:52:17 <kaz> paul: should add LBS
16:52:28 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/automotive-and-web-platform-business-group-charter/ BG Charter
16:52:32 <kaz> wonsuk: agree
16:53:10 <kaz> paul: what else?
16:53:52 <kaz> kaz: wondering about the media work
16:54:04 <kaz> ... Ryan, is it OK to continue to work with the TV Control WG?
16:54:16 <kaz> ... they're removing "TV" from the API definition
16:54:33 <kaz> ryan: OK with working with them
16:54:40 <kaz> ... automotive input
16:55:14 <kaz> ... there is a lot of energy in that group
16:55:43 <kaz> kaz: good
16:56:18 <kaz> ... on the other hand, maybe at some point (not now) we should think about low-level websocket interface for media tuner and LBS as well
16:56:46 <kaz> paul: btw, are rechartering the BG?
16:57:01 <kaz> wonsuk: we need to update the Charter
16:57:15 <kaz> ... adding LBS, media tuner
16:57:22 <kaz> ... input from VW as well
16:57:34 <kaz> they have media portion as well
16:57:47 <kaz> s/they/... they/
16:59:02 <kaz> kaz: from the W3C process viewpoint, BGs don't have actual charter period
16:59:16 <kaz> ... but the Charter wiki should be updated based on our work
16:59:24 <kaz> wonsuk: right
16:59:30 <kaz> ... new use cases as well
16:59:58 <kaz> ... Paul, do you want to say something?
17:00:07 <kaz> paul: agree
17:00:12 <kaz> ... Ryan working on media tuner
17:00:24 <kaz> ... Philippe Colliot and Qing An working on LBS
17:00:36 <kaz> ... new proposal from VW
17:00:43 <kaz> ... security is another big one
17:00:56 <kaz> ... Genivi security by Stacy is good one
17:01:14 <kaz> ... helpful for this group
17:02:10 <kaz> ... device interaction as well
17:02:33 <kaz> kaz: including bluetooth?
17:03:01 <kaz> paul: will put the note from the previous meeting
17:03:45 <kaz> kaz: the list from the Anaba meeting?
17:03:45 <kaz> paul: yes
17:04:45 <kaz> wonsuk: not sure if "device interaction" includes voice interaction
17:04:54 <kaz> ... but there was interest in that
17:04:58 <kaz> s/that/that as well/
17:05:24 <kaz> ... voice interaction for driving
17:05:30 <kaz> ... like Amazon echo
17:06:35 <kaz> kaz: we had joint discussion with Glen shires from Google in Santa Clara
17:07:09 <kaz> pr: if you want to get update on speech from Genivi, you should talk with Philippe Colliot
17:07:15 <kaz> paul: ok
17:07:52 <kaz> pr: Philippe is completing PoC by the end of year
17:08:19 <kaz> paul: will send a list of collected topics
17:08:45 <kaz> ... we should start media at next meeting
17:08:51 <kaz> ... sounds good?
17:08:54 <kaz> wonsuk: yes
17:09:08 <kaz> ... one of the ideas I have is
17:09:17 <kaz> ... how about making a TF for use cases?
17:09:24 <kaz> ... keep discussion on use cases
17:09:38 <kaz> ... what the industry situation is like
17:09:45 <kaz> paul: good idea
17:09:48 <kaz> ... e.g., for payments
17:10:22 <kaz> ... anything about IoT would be related to automotive
17:10:44 <kaz> ... communication with traffic company should be also important
17:12:17 <kaz> ... should discuss what kind of capability is required
17:12:27 <kaz> ... based on use cases
17:13:14 <kaz> ... VSS is a good example, media tuner is another good example
17:14:52 <kaz> kaz: during the Paris meeting, Urata-san and Hira-san mentioned they organized a hackathon using the vehicle api
17:15:20 <kaz> ... that event included several interesting use cases
17:15:29 <kaz> wonsuk: can dig the resource about that?
17:15:33 <kaz> kaz: will do
17:15:54 <kaz> wonsuk: can we put all the information together?
17:16:00 <kaz> paul: we should do that
17:16:49 <kaz> kaz: we can start with wiki?
17:16:52 <kaz> paul: think so
17:17:00 <kaz> ... mailing list as well
17:17:40 <kaz> ... will take an action item to send the topic list
17:19:37 <kaz> ... everybody wants VSS and the BG should be complementary to the WG
17:20:05 <kaz> wonsuk: we have previous use cases and we can revisit them as well
17:20:17 <kaz> ... also can get new use cases
17:20:35 <kaz> ... should think about what actual industry use cases are
17:21:46 <kaz> wonsuk: in case of the media stuff, there are existing Web services like podcast
17:22:03 <kaz> ... would be beneficial for the media tuner capability
17:22:15 <kaz> paul: sounds good
17:22:32 <kaz> ... we should start larger group discussion
17:22:52 <kaz> ... you and I should coordinate with each other
17:22:59 <kaz> ... Genivi guys as well
17:23:45 <kaz> ... should I send an email to the BG?
17:23:50 <kaz> wonsuk: yes, please
17:23:53 <kaz> paul: ok
17:24:03 <kaz> ... please respond, everybody
17:24:17 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
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