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19:46:14 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
19:46:14 <trackbot> Date: 08 November 2016
19:46:24 <clown> chair:  Joseph_Scheuhammer
19:47:04 <clown> clown has changed the topic to: WebEx Access Code 641 707 405 (Next meeting 15-Nov-2016, 20:00 UTC)
19:47:11 <clown> agenda: this
19:47:18 <clown> agenda+ ISSUE-676/ACTION-2126: (Joseph) Adding MSAA+IA2 action, interface, and relations to role mappings.
19:47:26 <clown> agenda+ ACTION-2121: (Joseph/Joanie) Correct the ATK/AT-SPI text for single and multiple selection removal.
19:47:36 <clown> agenda+ ISSUE-1038: (Bogdan) Mappings for feed, figure, term, and UIA in general.
19:47:48 <clown> agenda+ Triage issues/actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/23
19:47:56 <clown> agenda+ Triage core-aam bugzillas: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Core%20AAM&product=ARIA
19:48:03 <clown> agenda+ Triage accname-aam bugzillas: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=AccName%20AAM&product=ARIA
19:48:09 <clown> agenda+ Triage accname actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/products/26
19:48:16 <clown> agenda+ be done.
20:00:41 <clown> present+ Joseph_Scheuhammer
20:01:23 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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20:06:39 <bgaraventa1979> present+ Bryan_Garaventa
20:07:18 <joanie> scribe: joanie
20:08:57 <joanie> Zakim, take up item 1
20:08:57 <Zakim> agendum 1. "ISSUE-676/ACTION-2126: (Joseph) Adding MSAA+IA2 action, interface, and relations to role mappings." taken up [from clown]
20:09:05 <clown> action-2126
20:09:05 <trackbot> action-2126 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Add actions, interfaces, and relations to the msaa+ia2 mappings. -- due 2016-11-01 -- OPEN
20:09:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2126
20:09:25 <joanie> JS: This is mostly my action-2126 where I was supposed to add actions, interfaces, and relations to the msaa+ia2 mappings.
20:09:26 <clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html
20:09:40 <joanie> JS: I am mostly done. I have done it in a branch (see above)
20:09:53 <joanie> JS: I removed the redundant items, as per Alex's request.
20:10:02 <joanie> JS: There were a lot of them.
20:10:09 <clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-img
20:10:09 <joanie> JS: Also, I put in the image interface.
20:10:28 <joanie> JS: See above URL for example.
20:10:52 <joanie> JS: There was one last thing, looking for a selection interface in IA2 for things like listbox, menu, menubar, and others.
20:10:56 <joanie> JS: I asked Alex about it.
20:11:21 <clown> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria/2016Nov/0021.html
20:11:30 <joanie> JS: And he said (reads from above URL)
20:12:09 <joanie> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318466(v=vs.85)
20:12:54 <joanie> JD: The URL in the email, the link is missing the closing parenthesis. The above link works.
20:13:38 <joanie> JS: Alex mentioned get_accSelection and accSelect methods in the email
20:13:45 <joanie> JS: I was about to put that in there.
20:14:11 <joanie> JS: For grid, for example, but then I realized that everything implements IAccessible.
20:15:54 <joanie> JD: Looking at his email, it's just the two methods related to selection that I think he's suggesting.
20:16:28 <joanie> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318474(v=vs.85)
20:16:57 <joanie> https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd318486(v=vs.85).aspx
20:18:55 <joanie> JS: Ok, I think I have enough.
20:19:48 <joanie> JS: I will try to get this finished and merged by next week.
20:20:32 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:20:32 <Zakim> agendum 2. "ACTION-2121: (Joseph/Joanie) Correct the ATK/AT-SPI text for single and multiple selection removal." taken up [from clown]
20:20:41 <joanie> JS: We discussed this last week.
20:20:42 <clown> action-2121?
20:20:42 <trackbot> action-2121 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to Correct the atk/at-spi entries in seciton 5.8.3 for single selection and multiple selection when the selection is removed. -- due 2016-10-25 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:20:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2121
20:21:02 <joanie> JS: Joanie found a few little things, like underscore versus dash in method names.
20:21:14 <joanie> JS: And removing the focus: event.
20:21:53 <clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/ACTION-2126/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_events_selection
20:22:41 <clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#role-map-feedmapping_events_selection
20:23:46 <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/commit/5471b02a955edcaf394735af2c99eca1afc75ba8#diff-44a18abe53562094e678b59690bd4757L2988
20:31:24 <joanie> (Discussion about how the changes made are not quite right, and how to correct them)
20:34:35 <clown> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#focus_state_event_table
20:35:36 <joanie> JS: I'll make the changes to selection.
20:36:11 <joanie> JS: Final question, does this need a Changelog entry for the details?
20:36:15 <joanie> JD: Probably not.
20:36:23 <joanie> JS: I'll get this done by next week, too.
20:36:27 <joanie> Zakim, next item
20:36:27 <Zakim> agendum 3. "ISSUE-1038: (Bogdan) Mappings for feed, figure, term, and UIA in general." taken up [from clown]
20:36:38 <clown> ISSUE-1038?
20:36:38 <trackbot> ISSUE-1038 -- Need mappings for role="feed", "figure", "term" for all AAPIs -- open
20:36:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1038
20:36:55 <joanie> JS: A while ago, Cynthia left and Bogdan was asked to go over all the UIA entries in all the tables and adjust them.
20:37:11 <clown> action-2118
20:37:11 <trackbot> action-2118 -- Bogdan Brinza to Addresss UIA mappings for ARIA 1.1 -- due 2016-10-16 -- CLOSED
20:37:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2118
20:37:18 <joanie> JS: He added a note to action-2118.
20:37:40 <joanie> JS: He said there are no outstanding mappings other than what is in action-2013.
20:37:44 <joanie> action-2013
20:37:44 <trackbot> action-2013 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to UIA mapping for role=navigation (GIthub issue #242) -- due 2016-02-12 -- CLOSED
20:37:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2013
20:37:48 <clown> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/469
20:38:02 <joanie> action-2103
20:38:02 <trackbot> action-2103 -- Bogdan Brinza to Provide uia mappings for roles feed, figure, and term; and aria-colcount, aria-colspan, aria-colindex, aria-rowcount, aria-rowindex, aria-rowspan, and aria-details. -- due 2016-08-09 -- PENDINGREVIEW
20:38:02 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2103
20:38:23 <joanie> s/action-2013/action-2103/
20:38:34 <joanie> JS: Bogdan added a pull request to the comment.
20:38:43 <joanie> JS: I've not looked further at it.
20:38:54 <joanie> (JS reads Bogdan's comment)
20:39:04 <joanie> (JS reads Rich's response)
20:39:31 <joanie> https://github.com/w3c/aria/pull/469
20:39:41 <joanie> JD: The above URL is where the comments are
20:40:22 <joanie> JS: To summarize, he is saying that he's added the outstanding roles and properties. The mapping is really clean and straightforward with the exception of aria-details.
20:40:52 <joanie> JS: aria-details is mapped using describedby
20:41:02 <joanie> JS: Rich said that was fine, but they cannot stringify it.
20:41:26 <joanie> JS: This patch has no conflicts and can be merged.
20:41:35 <joanie> JS: I will try to look at it for next week.
20:41:48 <joanie> JS: He also added a range value pattern for scrollbar.
20:42:00 <joanie> JS: And also for slider and spinner.
20:42:15 <joanie> JS: Sounds reasonable to me.
20:42:38 <joanie> JS: He's made some other editorial changes.
20:42:53 <joanie> JS: I just wanted to let you know this is going on with UIA.
20:51:46 <joanie> https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/ACTION-2103/core-aam/core-aam.html
20:52:25 <clown> https://rawgit.com/boggydigital/aria/ACTION-2103/core-aam/core-aam.html#ariaDetails
20:54:40 <joanie> https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/aria.html#aria-details
20:56:36 <clown> "In some user agents, multiple reference relationships for descriptive information are not supported by the accessibility API. In such cases, if both aria-describedby and aria-details are provided on an element, aria-details takes precedence."
21:01:05 <joanie> (Group discusses whether or not there might be a problem mapping aria-details to UIA's describedby property. Conclusion: Ask if there's any issue.)
21:01:49 <joanie> regrets+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
21:01:56 <joanie> Zakim, part
21:01:56 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Joseph_Scheuhammer, Joanmarie_Diggs, Bryan_Garaventa
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