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19:54:20 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
19:54:20 <trackbot> Date: 02 November 2016
19:54:36 <eparsons> Present+ eparsons
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19:55:07 <eparsons> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20161102
19:55:15 <eparsons> Chair: eparsons
19:56:31 <eparsons> Regrets: Rachel, Lars, SimonCox
19:57:07 <eparsons> Regrets: Jon, Bill, Frans, Phil, MattPerry, Bryon, Bart
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20:06:17 <eparsons> New webex link  https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=md6855d5b49f82a029c988c968aa0bf3f
20:06:41 <eparsons> Topic : Approve last week's minutes
20:06:50 <eparsons> http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-sdw-minutes.html
20:06:54 <jtandy> +1
20:07:09 <Linda> +0 was not there
20:07:13 <roba> +1
20:07:14 <ChrisLittle> +++1
20:07:14 <ClausStadler> +0 (wasn't there+
20:07:17 <SimonCox> jtandy: is that the webex password?
20:07:26 <eparsons> PROPOSED : Approve last week's minutes
20:07:33 <eparsons> RESOLUTION : Approve last week's minutes
20:07:43 <eparsons> sdw simon
20:07:55 <eparsons> Topic : Patent Call
20:08:03 <eparsons> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
20:08:13 <eparsons> Topic : New Publications promotion
20:08:25 <AndreaPerego> present+ AndreaPerego
20:08:44 <jtandy> q+
20:08:48 <eparsons> ack next
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20:09:51 <ChrisLittle> I will comment on Rob's Editor last draft for QB4ST
20:10:13 <jtandy> there are no comments on https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-comments/
20:10:17 <Linda> q+
20:10:33 <eparsons> jtandy: press release ?
20:10:42 <ChrisLittle> q+
20:11:01 <roba> Chris - note I updated it with a significant revision.
20:11:07 <eparsons> eparsons : phil said w3c press release unlikely
20:11:17 <eparsons> ack next
20:11:51 <eparsons> linda: talked to geonovum comms person - dutch magazine article planned
20:11:58 <ChrisLittle> +1 for Linda
20:12:38 <eparsons> linda: Next months OGC meeting a good oportunity
20:12:54 <AndreaPerego> Post in W3C space: https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/5901
20:12:56 <kerry> q+
20:12:59 <AndreaPerego> Related tweet: https://twitter.com/w3c/status/790985514400702464
20:13:10 <eparsons> josh: geosemantics sessions planned
20:13:11 <AndreaPerego> My tweet: https://twitter.com/AndreaPere9o/status/791184307582828544
20:13:22 <eparsons> ack next
20:13:31 <eparsons> ack next
20:13:37 <jtandy> q+
20:13:50 <eparsons> kerry: on w3c home page below the fold
20:14:14 <eparsons> kerry : Irish OS publishing linked data mentioned
20:14:23 <eparsons> ack next
20:15:05 <Linda> q+
20:15:07 <eparsons> eparsons : try reach usual suspects
20:15:14 <eparsons> ack next
20:15:35 <ChrisLittle> Q+
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20:16:07 <joshlieberman_> The feedback has not (cough) been overwhelming so far.
20:16:24 <eparsons> linda : still work in process -  danger mislead people based on content so far..
20:16:49 <eparsons> ack next
20:16:50 <jtandy> q-
20:17:10 <eparsons> ChrisLittle : will post to linkedin
20:17:37 <eparsons> eparsons : Is it clear how to comment ?
20:18:04 <eparsons> jtandy : yes it is explicit - email link
20:19:23 <eparsons> jtandy : good time to provide feedback is the context
20:19:31 <eparsons> Topic : Face to Face meeting planning
20:20:31 <kerry> q+
20:20:39 <eparsons> eparsons : phila would like to have a meeting before xmas
20:20:42 <eparsons> ack next
20:21:25 <eparsons> kerry : SSN not likely to come from AUS !
20:21:58 <eparsons> kerry : SSN now having weekly calls to speed up progress
20:22:14 <jtandy> q+ to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?
20:22:20 <eparsons> ack next
20:22:21 <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to propose 7, 8 or 9 Dec?
20:23:34 <Linda> q+
20:23:40 <jtandy> suggests 7, 8 or 9 and 15 or 16
20:23:40 <eparsons> ack next
20:23:45 <jtandy> (of Dec)
20:24:11 <AndreaPerego> Need to check - not sure I can make it.
20:24:27 <eparsons> Linda 15th/16th ?
20:24:37 <eparsons> Linda Just BP ?
20:24:42 <kerry> q+
20:24:47 <AndreaPerego> BTW, there's the W3C SDSVoc workshop in Amsterdam on Nov 30 - 1 Dec: https://www.w3.org/2016/11/sdsvoc/
20:25:08 <AndreaPerego> Is anyone going there?
20:25:13 <roba> suspect you could spend two days looking at examples and working out how close they are to the BP ...
20:25:18 <eparsons> jtandy : what do we want to achieve ?
20:26:00 <eparsons> jtandy : we spend 3 hours at TPAC on issues - this was very useful...
20:26:35 <eparsons> Linda : F2F more helpful than telecons - not though about what
20:27:18 <AndreaPerego> q+
20:27:21 <eparsons> eparsons : need to decide soon
20:27:38 <eparsons> jtandy : invite coverage people
20:27:42 <eparsons> ack next
20:28:35 <eparsons> kerry : Supportive of F2F as it creates focus
20:28:52 <eparsons> ack next
20:29:32 <eparsons> AndreaPerego W3C workshop of metadata could be a good option to meet also
20:30:29 <eparsons> eparsons : who could attend 15/16 dec
20:30:31 <Linda> +1
20:30:32 <ChrisLittle> +1
20:30:33 <eparsons> +1
20:30:36 <roba> -1
20:30:37 <AndreaPerego> Need to check.
20:30:38 <jtandy> +1
20:30:48 <kerry> -1 physically, probably virtually
20:30:53 <ClausStadler> uncertain for me
20:31:05 <AndreaPerego> Virtually for sure.
20:31:39 <eparsons> eparsons : I will check London locations
20:32:03 <eparsons> jtandy : Need to ping Bill tomorrow action on ed
20:32:38 <Linda> Geonovum meeting room is available 15th afternoon, 16th whole day
20:32:46 <eparsons> Topic : Rob's Dimensions (Rob)
20:32:47 <jtandy> action: eparsons to query new face to face dates with Bill Roberts (15 & 16 Dec)
20:32:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-216 - Query new face to face dates with bill roberts (15 & 16 dec) [on Ed Parsons - due 2016-11-09].
20:33:14 <eparsons> rrsagent, draft minutes
20:33:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html eparsons
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20:34:23 <AndreaPerego> @roba, could you please post the link in the IRC?
20:34:33 <eparsons> roba : QB$ST comes from datat cube community
20:35:14 <AndreaPerego> Found it: http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/
20:35:56 <eparsons> roba: Data warehouse dimensions not spatial dimensions
20:36:21 <eparsons> roba: Good time to review doc... is it relevant ?
20:36:54 <eparsons> roba:rdf data cube conformance therefore an extension
20:38:00 <eparsons> roba : Until Josh's vocab is ready work arounds needed
20:38:27 <eparsons> joshlieberman : Candidate BP in ogc world can be referenced
20:38:48 <eparsons> roba : Aim for Rec track
20:40:50 <eparsons> roba: rdf data cube not suitable to specify a crs or temporal reference system for a specific location
20:42:29 <eparsons> q?
20:43:11 <jtandy> q+ to check what ROb means by property
20:43:56 <eparsons> ack next
20:43:57 <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to check what ROb means by property
20:46:03 <SimonCox> q+ to ask roba if QB is the right basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which re-uses some of QB patterns?
20:46:49 <eparsons> ack next
20:46:50 <Zakim> SimonCox, you wanted to ask roba if QB is the right basis for spatio-temporal, or maybe need a new cube which re-uses some of QB patterns?
20:47:50 <jtandy> q+ to ask where Rob sees uptake of this model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it just to provide machine readable metadata?
20:57:22 <kerry> q+
20:57:41 <eparsons> ack next
20:57:42 <Zakim> jtandy, you wanted to ask where Rob sees uptake of this model; is it for people seeking to reason across data or is it just to provide machine readable metadata?
20:59:16 <jtandy> RobA: "qb is quite hard to use" ... limited uptake of RDF DataCube ... does the complexity outweigh the utility?
20:59:34 <eparsons> roba: answering jtandy good point - Very general patterns become abstract - nobody uses
20:59:47 <jtandy> s/RobA/RobA said earlier/
21:00:14 <eparsons> roba: adding "missing" bits of rdf datacube without reinvention
21:01:52 <eparsons> ack next
21:03:39 <eparsons> kerry : Supports Roba's approach helpful for EO data
21:04:42 <kerry> bye!
21:05:35 <SimonCox> (Kerry's constraint is probably that some of her work was with students, and Australian academic year is February-November ...  )
21:06:44 <AndreaPerego> Sorry, need to leave. Bye!
21:07:36 <jtandy> thanks! bye
21:07:43 <eparsons> bye all
21:07:56 <Linda> bye!
21:07:57 <eparsons> rrsagent, draft minutes
21:07:57 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/02-sdw-minutes.html eparsons
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