14:52:54 RRSAgent has joined #i18n 14:52:54 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-irc 14:52:57 Zakim has joined #i18n 14:53:08 trackbot, prepare teleconference 14:53:10 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:53:12 Zakim, this will be 4186 14:53:12 ok, trackbot 14:53:13 Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 14:53:13 Date: 27 October 2016 14:53:29 Chair: Addison Phillips 14:53:33 Scribe: Addison Phillips 14:53:37 ScribeNick: addison 14:53:47 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Oct/0032.html 14:53:51 agenda+ Agenda 14:53:58 agenda+ Action Items 14:54:02 agenda+ Info Share 14:54:08 agenda+ Radar 14:54:31 agenda+ What time is this meeting at? 14:54:39 agenda+ Language Detection 14:54:52 agenda+ closured on annotation issues 14:55:09 agenda+ Encoding support for GB18030 14:55:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 14:55:31 regrets+ Felix 14:55:48 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Oct/0040.html 14:55:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 14:55:59 rrsagent, set logs world 14:58:05 Present+ addison 14:59:04 present+ David 14:59:34 Present+ Steven Atkin 14:59:39 David has joined #I18n 14:59:44 Steve_Atkin has joined #i18n 15:00:53 John_C_Klensin has joined #i18n 15:01:44 present+ Richard 15:02:13 present+ JcK 15:03:42 agenda? 15:03:50 zakim, take up agendum 1 15:03:50 agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison] 15:04:42 zakim, take up agendum 2 15:04:42 agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison] 15:04:48 https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open 15:05:30 action-499? 15:05:30 action-499 -- David Clarke to Review geofencing fpwd -- due 2016-03-24 -- OPEN 15:05:30 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/499 15:05:41 david: not going to get to it, up to eyeballs 15:05:43 close action-499 15:05:43 Closed action-499. 15:07:04 David has joined #I18n 15:08:21 action-555? 15:08:21 action-555 -- Addison Phillips to Provide implementer guidelines for how to obtain language from runtime environment, users, et al -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN 15:08:21 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/555 15:08:25 close action-555 15:08:25 Closed action-555. 15:08:43 action-560? 15:08:43 action-560 -- Richard Ishida to Establish a process for auto-publishing updates to encoding on a regular basis -- due 2016-10-06 -- OPEN 15:08:43 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/560 15:08:48 richard: coming along 15:09:03 ... need a transreq 15:09:27 ... if we get in soon, pub by 10 nov 15:10:14 action-564? 15:10:14 action-564 -- Addison Phillips to Provide csarven and ldn with text about language negotiation -- due 2016-10-20 -- OPEN 15:10:14 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/564 15:10:29 close action-564 15:10:29 Closed action-564. 15:10:35 najib has joined #i18n 15:10:48 zakim, take up agendum 3 15:10:48 agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison] 15:11:48 addison: next week is IUC40, propose no call 15:12:21 ... will present including status from this WG 15:12:51 agenda? 15:13:22 zakim, take up agendum 4 15:13:22 agendum 4. "Radar" taken up [from addison] 15:14:16 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1 15:15:36 David has joined #I18n 15:16:33 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-international/2016OctDec/0045.html 15:16:40 richard: need to review UIevents first 15:16:55 richard: created a label 15:17:32 addison: I created two 15:17:42 ... just use the one? 15:17:53 ... just use uievents 15:18:24 richard: xiaoqian's email wanted like a month 15:18:35 ... explained that we need more 15:18:42 ... thing pushing this is a WAI doc 15:18:49 ... want normative link 15:19:00 ... going to REC in April 15:19:03 ... so have some time 15:19:28 richard: dug up some stuff, pointed to last time we commented 15:19:33 ... but they may not be valuable 15:19:36 ... from 2010 15:19:47 ... a few years before dealt with kbds... 15:20:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 15:22:27 agenda? 15:24:12 zakim, take up agendum 5 15:24:12 agendum 5. "What time is this meeting at?" taken up [from addison] 15:25:14 do we want the same wall time or follow UTC 15:26:18 david: prefer same wall time 15:26:27 addison: prefer that too 15:26:33 Keep wall time if possible 15:26:38 steve: +1 15:26:48 jck: prefer utc but okay with wall time 15:28:08 agenda? 15:29:00 zakim, take up agendum 7 15:29:00 agendum 7. "closured on annotation issues" taken up [from addison] 15:29:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 15:29:39 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/annotation-model 15:29:51 richard: want to know if we can meet tomorrow or 11 november 15:30:36 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/204 15:30:55 https://github.com/w3c/web-annotation/issues/348 15:32:26 action: addison: remind WG to review annotation-model issues for teleconference of 10 november and reply to their WG for a call on 11 november 15:32:26 Created ACTION-565 - Remind wg to review annotation-model issues for teleconference of 10 november and reply to their wg for a call on 11 november [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-11-03]. 15:32:46 zakim, take up agendum 8 15:32:46 agendum 8. "Encoding support for GB18030" taken up [from addison] 15:32:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 15:33:12 https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159891 15:33:21 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Oct/0042.html 15:33:40 richard: sent bug reports to the various browsers 15:33:44 ... "here are your issues" 15:33:48 ... one was to safari 15:33:56 ... was picked up by Myles Maxfield 15:34:19 ... guy jumped in to say the issue arises because they do NFC on text 15:34:31 ... example in comment 3 15:34:35 s/3/8/ 15:34:57 richard: don't think you should be normalizing this 15:35:18 ... only safari has this problem, large number of characters have this in this encoding 15:35:59 addison: but compatiiblity equiv isn't NFC?? 15:37:08 richard: was going to say "may do NFC on certain bits of text, but when encoding, shouldn't" 15:37:17 ... also example is a compat equiv 15:37:37 ... suppose I listed both characters in a document 15:37:47 ... on safari you get the same character 15:37:56 ... goes back to charmod-norm 15:41:56 steve: different on ios? 15:42:34 richard: could try 15:43:08 ... try replying one more time 15:45:17 zakim, take up agendum 6 15:45:17 agendum 6. "Language Detection" taken up [from addison] 15:45:36 https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/LanguageDetection 15:51:59 action: Addison: move language detection to i18n-discuss for further development and so that we can use issues 15:52:00 Created ACTION-566 - Move language detection to i18n-discuss for further development and so that we can use issues [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-11-03]. 15:52:03 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-discuss/tree/gh-pages/notes 15:52:59 Topic: AOB? 15:53:12 agenda? 15:55:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 15:57:00 rrsagent, make log public 16:02:51 najib has left #i18n 16:12:25 rrsagent, make minutes 16:12:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-minutes.html addison 16:12:27 zakim, bye 16:12:27 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been addison, David, Steven, Atkin, Richard, JcK 16:12:27 Zakim has left #i18n 16:12:39 rrsagent, bye 16:12:39 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-actions.rdf : 16:12:39 ACTION: addison: remind WG to review annotation-model issues for teleconference of 10 november and reply to their WG for a call on 11 november [1] 16:12:39 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-irc#T15-32-26 16:12:39 ACTION: Addison: move language detection to i18n-discuss for further development and so that we can use issues [2] 16:12:39 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/10/27-i18n-irc#T15-51-59