12:02:03 RRSAgent has joined #wot 12:02:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-irc 12:02:08 Meeting: WoT IG 12:02:16 present+ DarkoAnicic 12:03:48 mjkoster_ has joined #wot 12:03:49 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Federico_Sismondi, Masato_Ohura, Michael_Koster, Michael_McCool, Ryan_Ware, Takuki_Kamiya, Victor_Charpenay, Takeshi_Yamada, Sebastian_Kaebisch 12:04:06 dape has joined #wot 12:04:26 katsu has joined #wot 12:04:27 WebEx keeps disconnecting me.. 12:04:55 WebEx was not friendly to me this morning either. It took me a few tries to get in. 12:05:18 yingying has joined #wot 12:05:34 I will try without proxies... 12:06:02 victor has joined #wot 12:06:04 mkovatsc has joined #wot 12:06:11 present+ Uday_Davuluru 12:06:35 Webex won't start 12:07:38 https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_12_October_2016 12:07:41 present+ Masato_Ohura 12:08:02 Desktop is not starting 12:08:11 present+ Yingying_Chen 12:08:16 uday has joined #wot 12:08:30 scribe: Uday 12:08:38 scribenick: uday 12:08:46 present+ Daniel_Peintner 12:09:20 agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_12_October_2016 12:09:49 masato has joined #wot 12:10:07 Update: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_12_October_2016 12:10:31 mjkoster has joined #wot 12:11:11 present+ Keiichi_Tokuyama 12:13:22 tokuyama has joined #wot 12:13:31 jhund has joined #wot 12:13:51 Kaz: AC review update 12:13:54 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/wotwg2016/results AC review results (Member-only) 12:13:56 present+ Johannes_Hund 12:14:12 mjkoster has joined #wot 12:14:21 deadline 14th october for AC review 12:14:57 webex says the host has not yet joined the meeting. Maybe I have the wrong link? It's from the WoT main page 12:14:58 need to clarify AC reps comments 12:15:46 clarified Ericson comment 12:16:30 kaz to contact Ryan via Email 12:16:32 sebastian has joined #wot 12:16:33 s/Ericson comment/Ericsson comment last week/ 12:16:41 present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka 12:16:42 present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch 12:17:33 Sorry, I can't join the webex 12:17:42 kaz: we can simply add some clarification about "horizontal review" 12:18:18 Matthias: relavant comments from browser vendors 12:18:37 says it's waiting for the host and the host is Dave 12:18:50 I think I have an old link 12:19:31 Can someone please send me the updated webex link? 12:20:00 mjkoster: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=me9f16a4f569cc10028cd92ed566d0eb6 12:20:05 q? 12:20:10 Kay to contact Google reps 12:21:34 Matthias: would sent individual mails to contact browser vendors 12:22:08 s/Kay/Kaz/ 12:22:20 s/would sent/would send/ 12:22:22 Michael introduces Ryan from Intel 12:22:24 Webex is still telling me the host has not yet joined the meeting 12:22:54 Ryan from Intel working on product security 12:23:01 i/Michael/topic: Ryan Ware from Intel/ 12:23:09 s/Michael/Michael McCool/ 12:23:33 rrsagent, make log public 12:23:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:23:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:24:00 McCool: strategy around security?? 12:24:03 q+ 12:24:07 s/??/?/ 12:24:34 Chair: Matthias 12:24:43 Matthias: previous work about security 12:25:25 q+ 12:25:39 McCool: controlling access to new info, what needs to be added to TD to get acess 12:26:00 McCool: layers?? or subtopics?? 12:26:14 ack jhund 12:27:05 Johannes: idea to map ressource based interaction on top of protocols, to have access control mechanism based on OAuth 12:27:05 mjkoster has joined #wot 12:27:52 Johannes: split up into TFs 12:28:16 ack johannes 12:29:27 Security discussion: kick off soon 12:30:13 Johannes: to bring Oliver from Siemens onboard 12:30:24 q? 12:30:58 present+ Nan_Wang 12:31:25 ack k 12:32:45 Kaz: brings up discussion with automotive and other groups within W3C which are interested to join security discussion 12:32:58 Sebastian: updates TD work 12:33:43 s/discussion/discussion. once we've restarted the Security TF, we should invite them and ask them to explain their work so far as well./ 12:33:53 seba: Property Vs Actions, oneM2M, OCF view points, WoT strategy to follow 12:34:02 i/updates/topic: TD Restructuring/ 12:34:08 rrsagent, draft minutes 12:34:08 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 12:34:34 -> https://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-td-minutes.html TD Restructuring call minutes 12:35:38 s/Vs/vs/ 12:35:43 q? 12:35:57 q+ McCool 12:35:58 seba: points group to github for discussions 12:36:12 -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/issues GitHub Issues 12:36:59 q+ 12:37:09 ack McCool 12:37:16 McCool: should we discuss with OCF 12:37:27 present+ Wonsuk_Lee 12:37:40 seba: MKoster is the one involved with OCF 12:38:50 McCool: mentions oneM2M interop group within OCF 12:39:12 MKoster: lets give some time 12:40:31 ack mk 12:40:35 Matthias: would be good to have join calls with OCF data modelling people 12:41:29 MKoster: to contact OCF group 12:42:08 topic: Hzdra/ 12:42:41 s/Hzdra/Hydra/ 12:42:46 victor: writing proposal for hydra 12:43:12 https://github.com/vcharpenay/wot/tree/master/proposals/td-vs-hydra 12:44:34 wonsuk has joined #wot 12:45:46 Victor: explains Hydra with example 12:49:23 q+ 12:49:50 q+ 12:50:16 McCool: how long would it take for the prototype 12:50:48 Victor: needs to discuss with Bergi and hydra community 12:51:30 McCool: suggests to do this in next plugfest 12:52:00 seba: why hrefs but not a new term to ember hydra definitions 12:52:25 victor: link replaces uri, so essentially href is a link 12:53:38 Yongjing has joined #wot 12:53:50 q+ 12:55:22 ack sebastian 12:56:16 victor: doubts to include hydra implementation in next plugfest 12:56:25 present- 12:56:57 katsu has joined #wot 12:57:58 Matthias: can't we simplify redundant info 13:02:22 q+ 13:03:48 victor: clarifies 13:03:52 ack mk 13:06:26 MKoster: clarifies on hydra interetactions 13:10:15 q? 13:10:27 ack mjkoster 13:10:31 ack McCool 13:10:42 q? 13:11:23 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:11:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:11:23 wonsuk has joined #wot 13:11:33 topic: scripting proposal/ 13:11:59 i/AC review update/topic: AC review update/ 13:12:01 Johannes: trying to form scripting TF 13:12:12 s|proposal/|proposal| 13:12:14 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:12:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:12:50 Johannes: logistics, discussions- github 13:13:23 topic: next week agenda/ 13:13:35 wonsuk_ has joined #wot 13:14:24 Matthias: bring Oliver 13:15:56 possibilitz for Data Modelling joint call next week 13:16:11 s/possibilitz/possibility/ 13:16:33 s|agenda/|agenda| 13:16:35 q? 13:17:09 McCool: need to talk about logistics for next F2F 13:17:34 [ adjourned ] 13:17:43 rrsagent, draft mintues 13:17:43 I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz. Try /msg RRSAgent help 13:17:46 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:17:46 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:17:50 s/rrsagent, draft mintues// 13:17:53 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:17:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/12-wot-minutes.html kaz 13:27:46 yingying_ has joined #wot 13:28:49 ying_ying has joined #wot 13:32:57 Max has joined #wot 13:38:26 Max has joined #wot 14:32:44 wonsuk has joined #wot 16:27:57 wonsuk has joined #wot 17:10:52 wonsuk_ has joined #wot 18:34:02 wonsuk has joined #wot 19:26:45 wonsuk_ has joined #wot 20:04:18 Karen has joined #wot 21:47:43 wonsuk has joined #wot 22:11:26 wonsuk has joined #wot 22:29:12 wonsuk has joined #wot