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12:05:26 <kaz> present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Michael_Koster, Dom_Guinard, Masato_Ohura, Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool, Sebastian_Kaebisch, Uday_Davuluru, Victor_Charpenay, Wonsuk_Lee, Takeshi_Yamada(observer)
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12:09:06 <kaz> Chair: Matthias_Kovatsch, Michael_McCool
12:09:25 <kaz> agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_5_October_2016
12:10:32 <kaz> scribenick: domguinard
12:10:42 <kaz> topic: Status of AC review
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12:10:57 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/33280/wotwg2016/results AC review results (member-only)
12:12:07 <domguinard> 24 support for the AC review which means we have already cleared the process.
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12:13:22 <domguinard> additionally Intel should also support the WG, so should EVRYTHNG
12:13:36 <kaz> i/24/kaz: 24/
12:13:46 <kaz> s/additionally/mm: additionally/
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12:19:23 <jhund> Zakim, draft notes
12:19:23 <Zakim> I don't understand 'draft notes', jhund
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12:20:16 <domguinard> (sorry guys I was disconnected, back to notes taking)
12:20:39 <domguinard> MK: IPSO does not produce standards
12:20:51 <domguinard> we should leave them out of the working group charter
12:21:30 <domguinard> could be added to the to a context section, e.g, on the Wiki
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12:22:17 <kaz> s/to the to a context section, e.g., on the Wiki/to the IG side./
12:22:30 <kaz> kaz: would be complicated to add to the IG Charter
12:22:39 <kaz> ... but we could add it to the IG wiki
12:22:50 <domguinard> MK: let's leave it as it is. We'll reach out to Ericsson to explain why we are not adding IPSO
12:23:22 <mkovatsc> q?
12:24:02 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
12:24:11 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:24:37 <jhund> RRSAgent, make logs public
12:24:55 <kaz> RESOLUTION: leave charter as-is, add IPSO to liasons wiki, outreach to Ericsson to explain setup
12:24:57 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:25:01 <domguinard> MK: the technical work is done on GitHub. There are suggestions to link GitHub to the mailing list
12:25:31 <kaz> i/technical/topic: Group Processes/
12:25:32 <domguinard> MK: could generate quite a bit of traffic, confuse people with all the details of GitHub
12:26:28 <domguinard> RESOLUTION: we leave the technical work on GitHub
12:27:08 <domguinard> MK: the taskforces will review the issues and communicate the outcomes on the mailing list
12:27:25 <domguinard> MK: if you open an issue you need to push it forward towards resolution
12:28:15 <mkovatsc> q?
12:28:19 <domguinard> issue tracker is a good place to see why we reached a decision
12:29:54 <domguinard> MC: do we keep the same GitHub for the IG and the WG? I vote for keeping them all in one GitHub account
12:30:18 <jhund> q+ to mention tagging
12:30:23 <domguinard> MK: good to keep them both in the same place
12:31:27 <mkovatsc> q?
12:31:28 <domguinard> MK: once we the WG takes work from the IG we should remove the older work files from the IG repo to avoid confusion
12:33:05 <jhund> ack jhund
12:33:05 <Zakim> jhund, you wanted to mention tagging
12:33:35 <domguinard> MK: I will look at how to sort this out using GitHub
12:33:46 <jhund> ACTION matthias to propose tagging and folder structure for github
12:33:47 <trackbot> 'matthias' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., mkovatsc, matthiasm).
12:34:10 <jhund> ACTION mkovatsc to propose tagging and folder structure for github
12:34:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - Propose tagging and folder structure for github [on Matthias Kovatsch - due 2016-10-12].
12:34:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:34:26 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG
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12:35:04 <kaz> s/to the to a context section, e.g, on the Wiki/to the IG side./
12:35:12 <domguinard> SB: we are now discussing a new version of the Thing Description (TD) to be used for the next plugfest
12:35:17 <kaz> s|s/to the to a context section, e.g., on the Wiki/to the IG side./||
12:35:19 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:35:59 <kaz> i/we are/topic: TD Restructuring/
12:36:00 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:36:11 <domguinard> SK: several issues were raised in the last TD meeting, they are tracked on GitHub
12:36:38 <kaz> i|we are now|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/10/05-wot-td-minutes.html TD Restructuring call minutes|
12:36:44 <domguinard> SK: have a look at the issues and please comment
12:36:49 <kaz> s/SB:/SK:/
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12:36:55 <mkovatsc> q?
12:38:14 <kaz> topic: Other technical work
12:38:21 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-23-wot-minutes.html Lisbon F2F minutes
12:38:34 <jhund> q+ about scripting
12:38:42 <domguinard> MK: Victor wanted to work on Hydra, gathering people to work on that
12:38:50 <jhund> ack about
12:39:05 <domguinard> MK: an item from the TPAC was to better understand what Hydra was bringing
12:39:17 <kaz> i/Victor:/MK: Still need to work on Scripting/
12:39:21 <kaz> s/Victor/also Victor/
12:39:25 <kaz> q+
12:39:33 <kaz> q+ johannes
12:39:39 <kaz> q- cripting
12:39:43 <kaz> q- scripting
12:39:45 <kaz> ack jo
12:40:20 <kaz> present+ Ryuichi_Matsukura
12:40:46 <domguinard> Johannes: got a number of emails providing feedback on the scripting topic, need to summarize and present here
12:41:13 <kaz> q-
12:41:40 <kaz> q+ to mention other topics: matsukura-san for synchronization, kajimoto-san for lifecycle, joerg for f-interop
12:41:47 <kaz> topic: TD Lifecycle
12:41:53 <domguinard> MK: can someone report about the lifecycle breakout?
12:42:19 <kaz> i|can|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-wot-td-minutes.html#item01 TD Lifecycle breakout minutes|
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12:42:40 <jhund> ACTION jhund to prepare and announce kick-off for scripting
12:42:40 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Prepare and announce kick-off for scripting [on Johannes Hund - due 2016-10-12].
12:43:23 <domguinard> SK: the lifecycle of a product was presented, there were many open questions, e.g., how to represent this with languages such as RDF or JSON-LD, no concrete outcome yet, many open issues
12:44:55 <domguinard> MK: there was a breakout about sync things and proxies
12:45:12 <kaz> i/there/topic: Servient Synchronization/
12:46:11 <kaz> i|there was|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/22-23-wot-minutes.html#day2-item07 Synchronization minutes|
12:46:12 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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12:47:05 <kaz> topic: Protocol Mapping
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12:47:37 <kaz> @@dom@@
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12:48:44 <domguinard> MK: needs progress on on WS and MQTT mapping
12:48:47 <kaz> ack k
12:48:47 <Zakim> kaz, you wanted to mention other topics: matsukura-san for synchronization, kajimoto-san for lifecycle, joerg for f-interop
12:49:10 <domguinard> MC: we need to organise the work on security
12:49:12 <kaz> q+
12:49:31 <kaz> s/on on/on/
12:50:09 <domguinard> we do not have enough people who are active in the group working on security
12:50:33 <kaz> i/we need/topic: Other work/
12:50:51 <kaz> q?
12:51:14 <domguinard> MK: intel could help with strong security people but we need other members to also contribute
12:52:31 <domguinard> MC: we need a variety of people how can look at different use cases
12:52:41 <mkovatsc> s/MK: intel/MC: intel/
12:53:12 <kaz> kaz: can talk with Hashimoto-san from the Automotive WG and Lukasz Olejnik from the Device and Sensors WG
12:53:40 <domguinard> kaz: Hashimoto San could contribute for the automotive side of things
12:54:18 <domguinard> ACTION MC is going to push the security topic forward
12:54:19 <trackbot> 'MC' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., clarkemaximilian, mcokus).
12:54:34 <domguinard> ACTION McCool is going to push the security topic forward
12:54:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Is going to push the security topic forward [on Michael McCool - due 2016-10-12].
12:54:46 <mkovatsc> q?
12:54:50 <kaz> q-
12:55:30 <McCool> q+
12:55:41 <domguinard> kaz: we might want to have some follow up discussion with the F-Interop team
12:56:00 <kaz> q?
12:56:30 <domguinard> MK: we might want to invite the F-Interop team to give a talk but should probably brainstorm first
12:57:42 <domguinard> MacCool: still waiting to hear more about logistics for the February F2F and Plugfest
12:58:02 <kaz> s/MacCool/McCool/
12:58:03 <domguinard> McCool: waiting to see if Intel and host it
12:58:22 <kaz> i/still/topic: Next F2F planning/
12:58:29 <domguinard> McCool: need to understand where we are with OCF interop
12:58:46 <kaz> i/OCF/topic: OCF liaison/
12:59:10 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:00:37 <domguinard> MK: one of the issues is that OCF is a closed group, we need to see how we can collaborate
13:00:55 <mkovatsc> q?
13:01:00 <kaz> ack M
13:01:32 <kaz> topic: WoT landing page
13:03:48 <kaz> kaz: we need to talk with the W3C MarComm Team as well
13:03:56 <domguinard> MK: volunteers to lead this
13:04:53 <domguinard> EVRYTHNG offered to help / lead that during the TPAC
13:05:28 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/ WoT landing page
13:05:48 <domguinard> MK: we need a logo and a visual identity, we would also need a landing page
13:06:58 <kaz> ... would like to have a page we can update more freely
13:07:07 <kaz> kaz: kind of like a sandbox page?
13:07:09 <kaz> MK: yes
13:07:53 <kaz> dom: mentions http://webofthings.org/
13:09:55 <domguinard> we would like to add a W3C WoT tab to clarify the relationship between webofthings.org and the W3C WoT activities
13:12:02 <kaz> kaz: relationship between this effort and the existing Comm TF?
13:12:15 <mkovatsc> q?
13:12:16 <kaz> MK: more outreaching to the non-Members and let them know about our work
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13:14:11 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
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