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10:41:06 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MMI
10:41:07 <trackbot> Meeting: Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference
10:41:07 <trackbot> Date: 20 September 2016
10:41:07 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
11:01:55 <helena> question to kaz: in the table "functions of object" in the template, what are Fuctions of Objects Track  and Accountability  for?
11:02:33 <kaz> (sorry but taking notes at auto; will respond later)
11:02:54 <helena> ok great
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11:11:05 <ddahl> (updating use case document)
11:12:17 <kaz> action: kaz to clarify in the table "functions of object" what Fuctions of Objects Track and Accountability are for
11:12:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-455 - Clarify in the table "functions of object" what fuctions of objects track and accountability are for [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-09-27].
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14:03:46 <kaz> helena?
14:04:03 <helena> Hi kaz
14:04:28 <helena> we were in the cognitive TF meeting
14:04:35 <helena> now we are in our room
14:04:41 <kaz> ok
14:04:43 <helena> with the WoT people
14:04:47 <kaz> ok
14:04:51 <kaz> will be there in a few min
14:04:53 <kaz> mins
14:05:06 <helena> great
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14:10:59 <kaz> topic: joint meeting with WoT
14:11:17 <kaz> ddahl: explains what the MMI Architecture is like
14:12:07 <kaz> ... the Interaction Manager works with various Modality Components like speech, emotion recognition, ink capture
14:12:18 <kaz> ... communicate with user for WoT
14:13:06 <kaz> ... there is another component named Resource Manager
14:13:38 <kaz> ... responsible to maintain the state of the resources
14:13:53 <kaz> ... manage their capabilities
14:14:24 <kaz> ... shows another diagram
14:14:36 <kaz> ... with a rice cooker
14:14:53 <kaz> (green picture)
14:17:36 <kaz> helena: UPnP itself doesn't provide device capability information
14:18:58 <kaz> ... we were thinking the WoT framework should provide that kind of information
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14:40:05 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:40:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
14:42:01 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
14:42:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
14:42:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
14:42:29 <kaz> seb: explains Thing Description
14:42:58 <kaz> ... data types coming from RDF and schema
14:43:07 <kaz> ... but how to handle the range, etc.
14:43:36 <kaz> ... maybe there are some ways to rely on
14:43:41 <kaz> ... but not fixed yet
14:44:05 <kaz> ... if the type relies on XML, we can use its schema
14:44:13 <kaz> ... JSON Schema is not yet standardized, though
14:44:36 <kaz> ... we'll have discussion on Schema.org too
14:45:35 <kaz> ddahl: how can a developer get the value like temperature?
14:46:03 <kaz> seba: can access the entry point specified by the "uris" property
14:46:25 <kaz> ... and get the value by the "hrefs"
14:46:49 <kaz> ... index.html is the entry point
14:47:06 <kaz> s/point/point at the uris URL
14:47:35 <kaz> ddahl: besides temp, we can use more than one properties?
14:47:58 <kaz> helena: each property is atomic?
14:48:11 <kaz> seba: we could allow multiple protocols
14:48:21 <kaz> ... and multiple hrefs
14:49:12 <kaz> helena: question about the end point for multiple protocols
14:49:30 <kaz> seba: properties are handled by GET
14:49:37 <kaz> ... actions are handled by POST
14:50:17 <kaz> ... there is already complains on the usage of "uris"
14:51:23 <kaz> ... maybe better to explicitly specify the method in addition to protocols within "uris"
14:52:49 <kaz> kaz: also it would be even clearer to use different endpoint file names for different protocols instead of reuse "index.html" for all possible protocols
14:53:01 <kaz> seba: right
14:53:31 <kaz> ... discussion still ongoing
14:54:26 <kaz> ... this is JSON-LD notation based on RDF
14:54:38 <kaz> ... can show a bigger example
14:55:37 <kaz> helena: do you have any taxonomy to describe things?
14:56:11 <kaz> ... about how "things" could be described in addition to "devices"
14:56:18 <kaz> ... e.g., flower
14:56:42 <kaz> chair: Debbie
14:58:17 <kaz> present: Kaz_Ashimura(W3C), Sebastian_Kaebisch(Siemens), Dan_Burnett(Invited_Expert), Debbie_Dahl(Invited_Expert), Helena_Rodriguez(Invited_Expert), Ningxin_Hu(Intel), Uday_Davuluru(RWE), Andrei_Ciortea(Universite_de_Lyon)
14:59:02 <kaz> (discussion on ontology)
14:59:15 <kaz> seba: we're not working on ontology
14:59:41 <kaz> ... different kinds of ontologies could be used with the WoT framework
15:00:30 <kaz> helena: if I want to use some ontology with TD, where I can specify that within TD?
15:00:47 <kaz> seba: within the @context part
15:01:17 <kaz> ... and can use the prefix within the below @context
15:02:07 <kaz> ddahl: unit change?
15:03:09 <kaz> ... how the manufacture could specify units?
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15:11:40 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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15:14:47 <kaz> helena, if you could ping me when the MMI meeting is adjourned, I'll visit 1.12 again and take our group photo
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