18:34:18 RRSAgent has joined #waicc 18:34:18 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/09/14-waicc-irc 18:34:33 Zakim has joined #waicc 18:34:39 present+ Tzviya 18:34:45 present+ Janina 18:34:45 present+ Judy 18:34:48 RalphS has joined #waicc 18:34:52 present+ Wilco 18:34:54 Present+ Katie_Haritos-Shea 18:34:57 zakim, pick a victim 18:34:57 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Judy 18:35:02 zakim, try again 18:35:02 I don't understand 'try again', Judy 18:35:06 zakim, pick a victim 18:35:06 Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Judy 18:35:17 zakim, pick someone else 18:35:17 I don't understand 'pick someone else', Judy 18:35:42 Scribe: Katie Haritos-Shea 18:35:48 allanj has joined #waicc 18:35:50 ScribeNick: Ryladog 18:35:57 present+ shadi 18:36:28 present+ Ralph 18:36:33 agenda+ Confirming scribe and any agenda additions 18:36:33 agenda+ Hello from Ralph Swick, Architecture and Technology (A&T) Lead 18:36:33 agenda+ Upcoming agenda shift in support of new A&T goals 18:36:33 agenda+ TPAC logistics and joint meetings all set? 18:36:33 agenda+ Any further W3C Reorg updates or questions? 18:36:34 agenda+ Any groups need cross-review by other accessibility groups? 18:36:36 agenda+ WG and TF page checks all done? Can people easily find your latest work; participants; meeting schedule; lists & recent minutes? 18:36:39 agenda+ Community groups and workshops, recent/filled liaison needs? 18:36:42 agenda+ [for now] Upcoming publications, announcements, discussion threads to promote, including on WAI IG? Or issues to bring back into groups? 18:36:44 agenda+ Any other business? 18:36:46 agenda+ Next meeting: next date, topic requests 18:36:54 zakim, next item 18:36:54 agendum 1. "Confirming scribe and any agenda additions" taken up [from Judy] 18:37:07 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #waicc 18:37:11 present+ MichaelC 18:37:47 JB: Doing an intro in a minutes, any agenda additions 18:38:06 zakim, next item 18:38:06 agendum 2. "Hello from Ralph Swick, Architecture and Technology (A&T) Lead" taken up [from Judy] 18:38:09 lisa has joined #waicc 18:38:11 present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger 18:38:56 present+ lisa seeman 18:38:56 Ralph has joined #waicc 18:39:16 JB: Intorduce At&t Lead Ralph Swick 18:39:40 RS: Watching from a far for a long time 18:40:38 RS: Been around as long as Judy, I look forward to learning more. We will rely on Judy to lead the A11Y work. We want to better integrate a11y work across all our W3C activities 18:42:21 Ryladog_ has joined #waicc 18:42:31 Scribe: Katie Haritos-Shea 18:42:58 present+ 18:43:11 RS: Hopefully you have all read the Functional Reorg Doc, from about a month ago 18:44:11 RS: We created the TAG to support Tim in doing spec reviews that the Director is asked to do. Look at common web arch issues. TAG mission is still that, but have been driven by the neds of TAG 18:44:37 s/neds/needs 18:44:47 RS: We support the Director in all directorial roles, transitions, working with TAF on common arc cjallneges 18:45:38 RS: No less challenging than Phillip and Wendy have. We make suree that Horizontal Reviews get done, we dont do them 18:46:23 RS: Judy and I will be working closely together. Arch and Technology mandate cuts across all the work, including WAI work 18:46:48 JB: People introduce themselves... 18:47:27 JB: Most WG or Task Force leads attend this call 18:48:01 JS: Hi Ralph and congrats. APA is taksed with the a11y horizontal reviews 18:48:35 JA: I am co-facilitator of the Low Visions TF 18:48:50 RS: Thank you, will you be in Lisbon 18:48:53 JA: No 18:50:42 LQ: HTML Accessibility TF is inactive. 18:51:14 LS: I work for facilitator of the Cognitive TF in APA and WCAG 18:51:40 q+ 18:51:51 RS: H Ralph, I chair the ARIA WG, one of the editors for ??, and work for IBM, and Chairman of Knowbility 18:52:01 Kim has joined #waicc 18:52:26 WF: Ho Ralph, co-facilitator of the Conformance Testing TF of WCAG WG 18:52:42 JB: I see Lisa in Q 18:53:05 T: I chair the D-Pub ARIA TF 18:53:18 present+ LiamQuin 18:53:28 LS: Is the structure of the Restructure was sent to all? 18:53:42 JB: We will put in the URL 18:53:55 co-facilitator of the Low Visions TF 18:53:56 ack l 18:54:09 zakim, next item 18:54:09 agendum 3. "Upcoming agenda shift in support of new A&T goals" taken up [from Judy] 18:54:11 agenda? 18:54:16 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-members/2016JulSep/0023.html W3C Internal Functional Reorganization announcement 18:54:30 -> https://www.w3.org/2016/08/2016-reorg.html 2016 W3C Internal Reorganization 18:55:07 JB: Recc track work will be less of a focus of this call, unless there is some major announcment 18:55:56 JB: Or cross review. The coordination isn the various areas especially how the architecture fits together, making sure we dont drop things 18:56:59 JB: Pockets of accessibility work not colliding, having these discussions. Ralph the idea is to be supporting his work and the strategy area. Ralph and I will be in ongoing discussions with endt S on that 18:57:22 JB: MC may also be chasing that work. Ralph, further comments? 18:58:57 RS: I will let you drive the conversation. Sometimes folks are surprsied to hear that TAG has taken up am a11y issue. Ralph will be letting the a11y folks who should come to discuss issues with the TAG 18:59:29 RS: The TAG hasnt had a formal reporting relationship through W3M other than Tim himself. So that will be interesting to see 19:00:14 agenda? 19:00:23 Present+ Kim 19:01:22 Kim: We enable people using speach to use it in a better way. Co faciltator of the Mobile TF of WCAG 19:01:34 AWK has joined #waicc 19:01:36 zakim, next item 19:01:36 agendum 4. "TPAC logistics and joint meetings all set?" taken up [from Judy] 19:01:40 +AWK 19:02:04 All set for WCAG 19:02:10 JB: TPAC logistics, last minute check,Any issues for TPAC? 19:02:51 JB: (provide contact info) 19:03:15 zakim, next item 19:03:15 agendum 5. "Any further W3C Reorg updates or questions?" taken up [from Judy] 19:04:09 JB: Last time in terms of W3C staff, I will be available as needed 19:04:16 zakim, next item 19:04:16 agendum 6. "Any groups need cross-review by other accessibility groups?" taken up [from Judy] 19:05:18 JB: Are there updates that will come out after TPAC? 19:05:38 LS: MC may be on mute 19:06:06 MC: WE have arranged alot of cross reviews, dne see a need at this time 19:06:26 s/Last time in terms of W3C staff/Last time there was a question about WAI staffing/ 19:06:34 LS: COGA revieew will be coming out after TPAC but anyone can look at the on GitHuB 19:07:13 KIm: I sent something this morning 19:07:19 LS: I see that you did 19:07:46 Kim: It has to do wth customization. We used the wiki page that was set up for it 19:07:50 s/I will be available as needed/accessibility staff will be integrated within the functional model, and I will be coordinating with them and other colleagues as needed/ 19:07:52 LS: Thanks TF Exchnage 19:08:06 zakim, next item 19:08:06 agendum 7. "WG and TF page checks all done? Can people easily find your latest work; participants; meeting schedule; lists & recent minutes?" taken up [from Judy] 19:09:13 JB: I mentioned that when we want to keep people interested I will just use the pages of reference, sometimes it is up to date or out of date. 19:09:56 JB: It is important to please put in serach terms to see if you can find your group before TPAC to ensure that information is findable 19:10:35 LS: What is the main page we should be putting the search criteria into? 19:12:09 Ryladog has joined #waicc 19:12:14 ScribeNick: Ryladog 19:13:29 JB:You need to hae multiple ways to find your content. At some point we talked about having a page that identifies where all of our stuff is 19:13:46 T: Should we remove PF stuff 19:14:09 JB: This is th estuff that trips people up ,and makes people confused 19:14:11 zakim, next item 19:14:11 agendum 8. "Community groups and workshops, recent/filled liaison needs?" taken up [from Judy] 19:15:04 JB: The workshop that I had been concerned about in Virtual Reality. One person Charles, does anyone know of anyone else? 19:16:01 JB: Janina or MIcheal do you have any needs for liaison in new CG that have a need? 19:16:18 Janina, we continue to be overdue of our regular review of CG 19:16:36 JB: Before we talked about getting someone to volunteer 19:17:01 JS: We have domne that previouly successfully. WE have been wrapped up with publication review 19:17:21 JB: Is that something that Katie and WAI IG somehow help on that? 19:18:02 JB: Can we croudsource CG review via WAI-IG? 19:18:59 JB: If you are looking for resources it mmight be a good idea 19:19:23 Janina: I need to think about whether that might be a good idea. Can we think about it? 19:19:36 MC: I think it would be best to Seed it 19:19:44 s/Seed/cede/ 19:19:47 s/One person Charles, does anyone know of anyone else/One person Charles LaPierre, has already registered; anyone know of a second person as well? 19:19:59 JB: Lets discuss Seeding it 19:20:17 s/Seeding it/ceding it/ 19:20:25 JSL I agree with MC, we spent alot of time on it. We did not get much benefit out of it 19:21:14 JS: It got in the way of other things we need to do. There are many that go out, so we wated time that way. We are waiting until they have been around for 3 or 6 mnths 19:21:38 JB: Can I suggest that MC, KHS< and JS talk about it at TPAC 19:22:28 JB: What if you do find a group that does need a liaison? We want to have an a11y person that is in coordiation with the WAI 19:23:05 JB: Some previw of the work so that it is Accessibility Ready that might effect wht kind of a message you would want to send to the Accessibility IG 19:23:46 JS: I am certainly happy t have that converstaion. It is just that it is a time killer. Best if we do it less often 19:23:56 JB: OK , pease figure something out 19:24:15 agenda? 19:24:24 KHS: We will find a way to talk about that at TPAC 19:24:28 zakim, next item 19:24:28 agendum 9. "[for now] Upcoming publications, announcements, discussion threads to promote, including on WAI IG? Or issues to bring back into groups?" taken up [from Judy] 19:24:38 q+ 19:25:09 JB: Are there things going on that you think you would like to share with the community? 19:25:23 JB: Things 19:25:24 q+ 19:25:36 https://www.w3.org/blog/2016/09/portable-web-publications-use-cases-and-requirements-fpwd/ 19:25:52 T: D-PUB published the first Portable 19:26:20 Sure 19:26:27 JB: C 19:26:50 s/first Portable/FPWD of Portable Web Publications Use Cases and Requirements 19:27:05 ack t 19:29:20 KHS: EO asked us to ask WAI-IG folks to join them on Mondayy afternoon 19:29:46 JB: Where is the best place to put stuff for informal communications for TPAC? 19:29:54 RS: I am not aware of anything 19:30:12 RS: The most formal I can recall is the BOF proposals 19:30:30 +1 also called "unconference sessions" 19:30:31 JB: Do people have any BOF ideas? 19:31:09 https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2016/SessionIdeas 19:31:34 JB: Maybe something we could put in place notices to the TPAC attendees 19:31:46 RS: Yes there are TPAC hastags 19:32:04 agenda? 19:32:13 zakim, next item 19:32:13 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Ryladog 19:32:23 q? 19:32:28 ack R 19:32:31 zakim, next item 19:32:31 agendum 10. "Any other business?" taken up [from Judy] 19:32:33 q+ 19:33:10 SA: We contact WCAG WG Chairs in europe there is actvieit EN 301549 19:34:19 n 19:35:14 SA: It is to harmonize 508 and WCAG 19:35:16 zakim, next item 19:35:16 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Ryladog 19:35:23 ach R 19:35:27 zakim, next item 19:35:27 I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Ryladog 19:35:32 ack me 19:35:33 ack R 19:35:35 zakim, next item 19:35:35 agendum 11. "Next meeting: next date, topic requests" taken up [from Judy] 19:35:45 JB: The next meeting would be the 28th 19:36:02 APA is taking the post TPAC week off. Probably regrets for me 19:36:05 Regrets for 28th? 19:36:26 JB: If you have regrets for the 28th, please type that in. We may need a survey? 19:36:42 28th is ok, but I'll be late due to my recurring conflict 19:37:03 28 is OK for me 19:37:34 JB: We can move to a monthly meeting, but I would like to keep it at every two weeks if we can 19:38:00 JB: The transition will take a little while and then see 19:40:03 rrsagent, make log public 19:40:12 s/It is to harmonize 508 and WCAG/it is intended to fix issues related to realtime-text and align with US Section 508, but also to improve coverage on mobile - it is important to ensure continued harmonization with WCAG 2.0/2.1 in this effort 19:40:33 rrsagent, make minutes 19:40:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/14-waicc-minutes.html Judy 20:02:58 scribe: Katie_Haritos-Shea 20:03:33 chair: Judy 20:03:47 meeting: WAI coordination call 20:06:53 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #waicc 20:07:25 present+ Jim_Allan, Andrew_Kirkpatrick 20:07:33 rrsagent, make minutes 20:07:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/14-waicc-minutes.html Judy 20:08:08 present+ Kim Patch 20:09:36 scribe: ryladog 20:09:40 rrsagent, make minutes 20:09:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/14-waicc-minutes.html Judy 20:10:24 scribe: ryladog_ 20:12:57 scribe: Ryladog_ 20:17:40 s/am a11y issue/an a11y issue without directly contacting / 20:17:54 rrsagent, make minutes 20:17:54 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/14-waicc-minutes.html Judy 20:42:46 richardschwerdtfeger has joined #waicc 20:59:33 richardschwerdtfeger has left #waicc