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14:56:46 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
14:56:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:56:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:56:47 <trackbot> Date: 01 September 2016
14:56:48 <shawn> present:
14:56:52 <shawn> zakim, clear agenda
14:56:52 <Zakim> agenda cleared
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15:00:08 <allanj> regrets: wayne
15:00:21 <allanj> agenda+ Action-70 Write Font SC
15:00:22 <allanj> agenda+ Action-71 Text Style Wording
15:00:24 <allanj> agenda+ Action-72 Capitalization SC
15:00:26 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-73 Size of all elements SC https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Size_of_all_elements
15:00:27 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-74 Element level customization SC
15:00:29 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-75 update gap analysis - DONE
15:00:30 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-76 use case for changing font size
15:00:32 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-77 Printing Customized Text SC
15:00:33 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-78 research on user settings
15:00:35 <allanj> Agenda+ Action-79 write Mobile contrast on Large text research
15:02:28 <shawn> present+ Shawn, JohnR
15:03:14 <allanj> need a scribe
15:06:24 <laura> present+ Laura
15:06:37 <allanj> present+
15:06:55 <JohnRochford> present+
15:07:46 <allanj> scribe: allanj
15:07:57 <shawn> Present+ JimAllan
15:09:59 <shawn> present+ ScottM
15:11:49 <shawn> topic: general
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15:12:14 <shawn> JohnR: Want to help more, but not sure now...
15:12:15 <shawn> shawn: would be good to make it clear to all what work is needed.
15:13:30 <shawn> ACTION: Jim inform TF of planned schedule and tasks that they can do to fill in the wiki pages for proposed SCs :-)
15:13:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-80 - Inform tf of planned schedule and tasks that they can do to fill in the wiki pages for proposed scs :-) [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-08].
15:13:35 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Main_Page
15:14:36 <shawn> scribe: shawn
15:14:40 <shawn> zakim, open item 1
15:14:40 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Action-70 Write Font SC" taken up [from allanj]
15:15:43 <laura> Open actions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
15:15:44 <shawn> on Wayne
15:16:28 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Font
15:16:43 <ScottM> I currently can't get into my w3c account
15:16:51 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:16:51 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action-71 Text Style Wording" taken up [from allanj]
15:17:10 <shawn> wayne. nithing yet
15:17:22 <shawn> s/nithing yet/nothing yet
15:17:38 <shawn> agena?
15:17:42 <shawn> agenda?
15:17:52 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:17:52 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Action-72 Capitalization SC" taken up [from allanj]
15:17:55 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Capitalization
15:18:19 <shawn> draft "For the visual presentation of blocks of text, a mechanism is available such that capitalization is user adjustable."
15:19:20 <shawn> Shawn: ... available for users to change capitalization.
15:22:08 <shawn> ACTION: Jim to make it easier to tell what is template text vs. content. :-)
15:22:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-81 - Make it easier to tell what is template text vs. content. :-) [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-08].
15:22:20 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:22:20 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Action-73 Size of all elements SC https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Size_of_all_elements" taken up [from allanj]
15:24:47 <JohnRochford> Jim: Will move the @@ statement in the Size of All Elements to Element Level Customization.
15:26:15 <shawn> Need to define elements?
15:26:24 <shawn> Shawn: change elements to content?
15:27:05 <shawn> Laura: content defined in WCAG?
15:27:09 <shawn> Jim: Yes
15:27:17 <JohnRochford> Laura & Jim: Because elements are defined in WCAG, we should not need to define it.
15:27:25 <shawn> Laura: then we wouldn't have to define anyting
15:27:40 <shawn> scribe:JohnR
15:28:15 <JohnRochford> Shawn: elements will be changed to content
15:28:37 <JohnRochford> This discussion is about https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Size_of_all_elements
15:29:10 <shawn> +1 to Laura's thoroughness with providing background info!
15:29:42 <JohnRochford> + 1 million and 1
15:30:09 <shawn> ACTION: Shawn update User Needs/Requirements with change size of all elements->content
15:30:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-82 - Update user needs/requirements with change size of all elements->content [on Shawn Henry - due 2016-09-08].
15:32:17 <JohnRochford> Laura: Just updated "Size Of All Elements" doc to use "content" rather than "elements".
15:32:44 <laura> https://w3c.github.io/html/semantics-embedded-content.html#the-picture-element
15:35:24 <JohnRochford> Laura: The simpler the better (for SC text).
15:36:03 <laura> 1.4.8: https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20/#visual-audio-contrast-visual-presentation
15:37:09 <JohnRochford> Jim: Any objections to marking this as finalized?
15:38:32 <shawn> present+ Andrew(second_part)
15:38:40 <allanj> action: jim to update gap analysis - size of all elements final
15:38:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-83 - Update gap analysis - size of all elements final [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-08].
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15:39:14 <shawn> zakim, who is on the phone?
15:39:14 <Zakim> Present: Shawn, JohnR, Laura, allanj, JohnRochford, JimAllan, ScottM, Andrew(second_part)
15:39:42 <shawn> Present: Shawn, Laura, JohnRochford, JimAllan, ScottM, Andrew(second_part)
15:39:48 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:39:48 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Action-74 Element level customization SC" taken up [from allanj]
15:40:00 <AWK_> +AWK
15:40:09 <shawn> wayne not gotten to
15:40:16 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:40:16 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, shawn
15:40:30 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:40:30 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, shawn
15:40:37 <shawn> zakim, close item 5
15:40:37 <Zakim> agendum 5, Action-74 Element level customization SC, closed
15:40:38 <Zakim> I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:40:38 <Zakim> 6. Action-75 update gap analysis - DONE [from allanj]
15:40:41 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:40:41 <Zakim> agendum 6. "Action-75 update gap analysis - DONE" taken up [from allanj]
15:40:54 <shawn> zakim, close 6
15:40:54 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close 6', shawn
15:41:00 <shawn> zakim, close item 6
15:41:00 <Zakim> agendum 6, Action-75 update gap analysis - DONE, closed
15:41:01 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:41:01 <Zakim> 7. Action-76 use case for changing font size [from allanj]
15:41:04 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:41:04 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Action-76 use case for changing font size" taken up [from allanj]
15:42:26 <JohnRochford> ScottM: May have modified the wrong SC by mistake.
15:42:36 <laura> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Text_Size
15:42:43 <ScottM> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Text_Size#SC_Text
15:43:26 <JohnRochford> text = Except for images of text, text can be resized without assistive technology up to 400 percent without loss of content, functionality, @@and readability.@@
15:46:37 <JohnRochford> Jim: 400% should instead be "up to the browser maximum"
15:50:20 <JohnRochford> ScottM: Browsers today prefer to increase the size of the entire page/UI rather than just the text/font size.
15:52:14 <JohnRochford> Jim: We are going to leave this issue for now.
15:53:36 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:53:36 <Zakim> agendum 8. "Action-77 Printing Customized Text SC" taken up [from allanj]
15:56:42 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Printing_Customized_Text
15:56:54 <shawn> latest draft wording: "A mechanism is available to allow users to print page content that matches page presentation changes made by the user."
15:58:52 <shawn> Shawn: for example, user style sheet changes in browser reflected in printed content
15:59:25 <shawn> agenda?
15:59:37 <shawn> scribe: Shawn
15:59:53 <shawn> zakim, take up next
15:59:53 <Zakim> agendum 9. "Action-78 research on user settings" taken up [from allanj]
16:00:01 <shawn> wayne
16:00:08 <shawn> zakim, close item 9
16:00:08 <Zakim> agendum 9, Action-78 research on user settings, closed
16:00:09 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:00:09 <Zakim> 10. Action-79 write Mobile contrast on Large text research [from allanj]
16:00:15 <shawn> zakim, take up next
16:00:15 <Zakim> agendum 10. "Action-79 write Mobile contrast on Large text research" taken up [from allanj]
16:00:22 <shawn> Jim: not done yet
16:01:19 <shawn> Jim: Andrew, know what mobile said about text size? Know where the reseach is that support OK for diff contrast for larger text.
16:01:31 <shawn> ... from original WCAG
16:01:45 <shawn> awk: Not know, I'll poke around.
16:02:34 <AWK_> http://www.w3.org/TR/UNDERSTANDING-WCAG20/visual-audio-contrast-contrast.html
16:02:49 <AWK_> Note: Calculations in [ISO-9241-3] and [ANSI-HFES-100-1988] are for body text. A relaxed contrast ratio is provided for text that is much larger.
16:05:45 <allanj> trackbot, end meeting
16:05:45 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:05:45 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Shawn, Laura, JohnRochford, JimAllan, ScottM, Andrew(second_part), AWK
16:05:53 <laura> bye.
16:05:53 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:05:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-minutes.html trackbot
16:05:54 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:05:54 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-actions.rdf :
16:05:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jim inform TF of planned schedule and tasks that they can do to fill in the wiki pages for proposed SCs :-) [1]
16:05:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-irc#T15-13-30
16:05:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jim to make it easier to tell what is template text vs. content. :-) [2]
16:05:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-irc#T15-22-08
16:05:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Shawn update User Needs/Requirements with change size of all elements->content [3]
16:05:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-irc#T15-30-09
16:05:54 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jim to update gap analysis - size of all elements final [4]
16:05:54 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/09/01-lvtf-irc#T15-38-40