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<Judy> JB: scribe id'd; may add items in progress.
<scribe> scribe: janina
jb: Have been updates to reorg plan for W3C
<Judy> ...a second clarification:
<Judy> https://www.w3.org/2016/08/2016-reorg.html#h.9s308o6n8mce
jb: There have been many
discussions about where and how WAI fits into the new
structure
... Concerns about coordinated accessibility program were
expressed
... Edits to above draft intended to address this
... Judy continues as WAI Director with responsibility to
report to management on how accessibility work is
progressing
gk: Do you have staff reporting to you?
jb: That still needs more
clarification
... I will have input to a11y staff throughout the
organization
... The work that has been chartered will progress under
program and strategy management plus a11y
jb: Believe someone has been saying SVG a11y no longer a W3C priority; that's not quite the case
fe: Heard that resources were
being reduced, affecting esp Doug
... Also that SVG not growing, both chairs now gone
... Doug wouldn't be able to work on authoring guidance, some
tasks like that
jb: There are multiple conversations ongoing about this; I need to collect more info and a fuller picture
fe: At the moment we're in lock
step with ARIA-1.1 and SVG 2
... Docs are ready, waiting for Dpub; now writing test
scripts
... Both SVG and ARIA will be able to use the same testing
framework
mc: Note I'm not waiting on Dpub
for anything.
... SVG docs ready to go
jb: One fpwd, others are heartbeats.
fe: We can't go further because of dependencies, but we're ready to go further
jb: I will probably contact with more questions
gk: Understand mathjax has ability to generate SVG image of the math
ts: Yes
jb: But not semantic, correct?
fe: Should be semantic, though
may be difficult for the authoring tool
... Should provide the ability to walk the formula
gk: But the mathml not included in the SVG, correct?
ts: Above my ability to respond
jb: Someone at ETS has done work on this
ts: Believe Design Science
jb: Can someone follow up?
gk: We're trying to develop best practice guidance for publishers on how to do math
<tzviya> https://www.w3.org/community/mathonwebpages/
ts: There's concern beyond
publishing about this
... Note link above for community group on Web Math
jb: We need to sieze on whatever
work currently could help move accessibility of math
forward
... Can George and Tzviya sort this and report back?
gk: Should have a meeting for
next week on this
... Who from SVG?
fe: Ping Rich
... Or Amelia
mc: rqtf won't be meeting
... So room available Monday and Friday. Anyone need a
room?
jb: Possibly EO, possibly
testing/conformance
... Thinking we should keep the room for ad hoc meeting
mc: Note it's only available
Monday and Friday
... Lisa thought Friday morning might help COGA
jb: Seems there may be up to 4 groups that might find this helpful ...
mc: Noting EO has a room
jb: So, three groups
jb: Asking for updates on TF and WG home pages -- Can people find our work?
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/svg-a11y-tf/
<Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2016
<tzviya> DPUB Agenda (still a little tentative): https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Sep_2016_F2F_Logistics_and_Details#Agenda
jb: We always try to clean these up ahead of TPAC
ts: Recalling APA meeting with Leonie about ARIA-Details discovery
<tzviya> https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/561
js: Notes need to discuss discoverability during TPAC
jb: Lots of documentation on this
<MichaelC> https://www.w3.org/2015/08/extended-description-analysis
js: Notes that CSS A11y TF now agreed by APA, ARIA, and CSS
jb: Notes available room later in the week!
jb: Is there an update?
rs: Will discuss again on
Thursday's ARIA call
... Most people seem to be OK with giving Web Platforms
exclusive publication
... Except that we do need adequate review time
... So, we're trying to figure that out. How much time ahead of
CR publication, for instance
... Generally, people work on the doc and don't worry about
ownership
... Any group could lose people and then the doc loses
staff
mc: Not sure the editors care
either way, either that we leave it as is, or that we move it
over
... Don't believe the joint status has imposed any burden
... Actually the proposed review time is greater than what we
currently have
... I'm confident in current staffing on this doc, just worried
about the future
... If there's no problem today, why remove our buffer?
jb: Understand short time acceptance, but concerned on long term view
mc: Certainly we want to encourage another group working--no objection, except that it's not just their stake in the results
js: Recalls ARIA in HTML discussion. Are we reviewing as we promissed?
rs: Yes, I am, and the AAM people are. But the WG hasn't
<MichaelC> all the AAMs except Core or AccName, which are ARIA-specific, are joint
jb: Noting current status is joint, and PLH recommeending keep it that way for now
rs: Can PLH send an email to that effect?
<Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say if ARIA lacks resources but HTML still interested, joint ownership means they can be the buffer - it goes both ways
<Zakim> janina, you wanted to remember ARIA in HTML module
rs: It's Adrian who's trying to get out from under all joint ownerships
jb: Perhaps we need to raise that with PLH
jb: Are any submitted for VR Workshop
<Judy> https://www.w3.org/2016/06/vr-workshop/
rs: Recalling Web Interest Group was to start on a web API
<Judy> JB: sees Charles la Pierre from Benetech registered for W3C virtual reality workshop
rs: Seems, mostly Google put up
an API doc where they listed Microsoft and Apple as
editors
... We had no reports on this work
... WICG -- Web Incubator --
... Positive aspect is this will be brought to WICG, and we do
need an API for extensibility
<Rich> http://a11y-api.github.io/a11y-api/spec/
jb: Would be good to get a second person to the VR Workshop
<MichaelC> https://github.com/a11y-api/a11y-api/blob/master/explainer.md
mc: Noting Graphics module to go FPWD, also two FPWD from COGA, and an update on Understanding WCAG
<MichaelC> Graphics for 6 Sep
<MichaelC> COGA for 15 Sep
<MichaelC> WCAG Notes for 8 Sep
jb: Noting just ahead of TPAC on 14 Sep
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