13:31:50 RRSAgent has joined #silver 13:31:50 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-silver-irc 13:32:51 SarahHorton has joined #silver 13:33:45 Lauriat has joined #silver 13:38:01 Topic: New info on wiki 13:38:02 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Design_Driven_Option 13:38:10 AWK has joined #silver 13:38:54 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Design_Driven_Option 13:40:04 Overview of all the Methods 13:40:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Design_Driven_Option 13:40:37 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Designing_Silver -< Home 13:41:08 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Process_for_designing_the_Process <- Master list of methods 13:42:10 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Design_Driven_Option <- 1st Option: Design Driven 13:51:36 Sarah: Need a comparison document 13:51:45 Shawn: Tie it back to the goals. 13:52:33 Shawn: Back to ranking, looking at Low Cost 13:53:27 Jeanne: Will need volunteer with experience to help design survey 13:54:40 Action: Jeanne will explore possible partners for survey 14:09:03 Low Cost option will be items that can be done with no budget but could be finished within two years. 14:12:35 Sarah: Some low cost options will have narrower scope and rigor 14:12:35 Secondary research in the Low cost option will have a narrow scope 14:13:44 Sarah: when does the scope become so low that it really isn't worth doing, there is no value to it. 14:20:37 Shawn: Analysis is needed for every option, because we need to be able to write the report, We will do them differently in each option. 14:21:06 Sarah: We can leave it as high, but we need to point out that it won't be as inclusive or as well thought out. 14:21:26 Jeanne: I think we should split off the grouping. 14:22:22 Jeanne: We have to do some report 14:22:49 Shawn: It will be more limited 14:24:35 Shawn: Ideation: the Face to Face could be a teleconference voice to voice. 14:25:27 Sarah: Online workshop would be low impact because we wouldn't have time to engage the people 14:25:58 Shawn: medium for Voting and high for choice by the Subgroup 14:26:00 q+ 14:26:58 aix has joined #silver 14:31:06 Jeanne: I think the user journeys and desireability are likely to happen, the others are too time-consuming 14:33:44 Sarah: If we force people to choose a single response we could get useful data for Desireability Testing 14:34:32 ... Refine prototype -- if we are keeping the cost low, we probably wouldn't do much. 14:35:57 Jeanne: voting: Who would vote, how would it work? it would take a lot of effort to promote something enough to get people to vote. I have real doubts about this. 14:36:45 Sarah: Establishing Resources and Partnerships, and taksforce would be high. And Hiring an editor would be low. 14:38:49 Jeanne: crowdourcing is not low cost. Software has to be developed or purchased. There is a cost of maintaining it and protecting it from trolls. 14:40:12 Jeanne: Writing workshop is a higher cost because of travel. Creation by individual writers is the status quo. 14:40:41 Sarah: Jeanne could reach out to the new version of RDWG to ask for help in creating a professional survey. 14:40:56 rrsagent, make logs public 14:41:07 rrsagent, make minutes 14:41:07 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-silver-minutes.html jeanne 14:42:12 Meeting: Silver subgroup 14:42:28 Present: AWK, jeanne, Sarah, Shawn 14:43:10 rrsagent, make minutes 14:43:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-silver-minutes.html jeanne