14:51:41 RRSAgent has joined #html-media 14:51:41 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-irc 14:51:43 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:51:43 Zakim has joined #html-media 14:51:45 Zakim, this will be 63342 14:51:45 ok, trackbot 14:51:46 Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference 14:51:46 Date: 30 August 2016 14:51:56 present+ paulc 14:52:38 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0105.html 14:54:51 johnsim has joined #html-media 14:55:09 ddorwin has joined #html-media 14:56:03 MattWolenetz has joined #html-media 14:59:04 markw has joined #html-media 15:00:24 jdsmith has joined #html-media 15:00:34 present+ MattWolenetz 15:00:39 present+ markw 15:00:42 present+ jdsmith 15:00:50 zakim, who is on the call? 15:00:50 Present: paulc, MattWolenetz, markw, jdsmith 15:00:51 present+ johnsim 15:01:45 present+ ddorwin 15:02:28 rrsagent, generate the minutes 15:02:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html paulc 15:03:52 \mw I have a hard stop at 9am 15:06:12 Chair: paulc 15:06:19 Scribenick: paulc 15:07:19 Topic: EME Editorial issues 15:07:53 ISSUE-211 and ISSUE-293 are still outstanding. 15:08:12 293 is block on respec fixes. The text is fine. 15:08:20 Mark is working on 211 this week. 15:08:38 David will change 211 to not be editorial since it does not impact the current doc. 15:08:55 Topic: EME nonblocking issues 15:09:13 ISSUE-242 and ISSUE-237 are still outstanding. 15:09:35 David has done a PR for 237. Mark will review -237 PR more. 15:09:45 David will then tackle a PR for -242. 15:10:07 It looks like the above editorial and nonblocking issues will be done this week. 15:10:21 Topic: EME registry issues 15:11:50 Philippe is not present to give an update. This was scheduled to be done by last Friday. 15:12:07 Topic: Other EME issues 15:12:31 Outstanding issues includ ISSUE-288 from Wendy. Paul to take action here. 15:12:51 plh has joined #html-media 15:13:18 Formal objections in ISSUE-304 and ISSUE-305 will be added to the Formal Objections page since neither will be resolved in V1. 15:13:57 Topic: EME registry issues (again) 15:14:39 EME issues 104, 183 and 213 will be done this afternoon. 15:15:06 MSE ISSUE-74 will also be done today for MSE registry. 15:15:36 Updates to EME registry will be done today. 15:15:47 MSE registry will be published for the first time on Thu. 15:16:08 Topic: EME at risk features 15:16:59 David: one feature got removed 15:17:08 >Support for insecure contexts, including the Are insecure contexts allowed? has already been removed 15:17:20 The other two at risk features are awaiting testing results. 15:17:35 Topic: EME test suite 15:18:13 See Jerry's updates on tesing: 15:18:14 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0106.html 15:18:21 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0107.html 15:18:45 Paul: questions were asked but not many answers 15:19:25 Jerry: we have timeouts 15:20:08 ... and they're not counted as failures 15:20:14 ... and we have a large number of those 15:20:25 ... don't know why yet 15:21:13 Mark: wasn't aware we had those timeouts... will need to look into this 15:21:35 ... if the playback doesn't start, you get a timeout 15:22:51 15:23:05 https://github.com/w3c/testharness.js/blob/master/docs/api.md#harness-timeout 15:23:51 Paul: what about the naming? 15:23:53 Mark: will fix it 15:25:18 MArk will replace the key system name in the test name with either 'drm' or 'clearKey'. See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0108.html 15:26:20 Mark will do the above two changes, Jerry will review any PRs and then re-run the tests. 15:26:58 plh: better to let testharness.js to time out and report those as failures in wptreport 15:27:46 Jerry: some tests migration need to be done 15:28:24 outstanding PR for EME test suite: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Aencrypted-media 15:29:30 ISSUE https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583 outlines Google tests to be migrated. Netflix is working on some of these. 15:30:18 Netflix is working on the 7 tests identified in https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583#issuecomment-243203368 15:30:39 There are 14 others to be migrated. 15:30:53 David cannot do this work item this week. 15:31:24 Jerry will look into doing some of the remaining Google test migrations. 15:33:12 Mark: which implementation can we use to test? 15:33:27 ... for persistent license 15:33:30 ... ChromeOS? 15:33:45 Jerry: I think Edge doesn't support the session type 15:33:53 Paul: Firefox? 15:34:02 Mark: didn't seem to work when I tried it 15:34:23 Paul: if you ask on the list, you might get an answer 15:35:32 Mark: we ran some of the tests on a castTV device, using polyfill 15:35:57 Paul: as long as we make it clear in the implementation report... 15:36:12 David: cast implementation is a private one, not intended to be used. 15:36:27 ... was created for Netflix 15:37:16 Topic: MSE draft Proposed Recommendation 15:37:38 Paul: I proposed that it was time to do this 15:38:15 ACTION: plh to generate the new MSE draft PR, pointing to the testing results 15:38:15 Created ACTION-108 - Generate the new mse draft pr, pointing to the testing results [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2016-09-06]. 15:38:46 Topic: MSE test suite results 15:39:17 Paul: still some outstanding pull requests 15:39:20 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0102.html is Matt's most recent update 15:39:43 Matt: going through them... 15:39:54 Outstanding PRs: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Amedia-source 15:40:14 ... resolving the merge conflict 15:40:25 ... I'll send out an update later today 15:40:33 ... rerunning the report 15:41:01 plh: I can rerun the tests 15:41:12 Matt: we have some idl failures 15:42:14 https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/media-source/interfaces.html 15:42:54 http://w3c-test.org/media-source/interfaces.html 15:45:22 Matt: if they are known bugs, how do we report it? 15:46:45 Paul: in an email is fine 15:49:40 rrsagent, generate minutes 15:49:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html plh 16:21:14 ddorwin has joined #html-media 17:22:33 ddorwin has joined #html-media 17:51:23 Zakim has left #html-media