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13:37:07 <SarahHorton> Scribe: Sarah
13:38:51 <SarahHorton> Topic: Add to Process Options doc
13:41:49 <jeanne> [Sarah reviews the methods she added to the Process Options doc]
13:41:52 <jeanne> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1irMybNoo-yUaUlEoo4beqIkTX7MUmyBX4b2eqZNjfR8/edit?usp=sharing
13:43:06 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Expand on Production and Evolution
13:43:42 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Hiring an editor for the spec, was successful in HTML 5
13:44:12 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Find way to broadly crowdsource creation of spec, look at HTML 5 model
13:44:36 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Hold workshop for people to work in small groups to craft spec
13:45:09 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: W3C face-to-face meeting, take chunks of spec, write it, and present to group
13:45:50 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Given individuals in working group responsibility for sections of spec, manage them, hold to writing section on timeline
13:47:13 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: First step is take results of experimentation and turn into requirements doc
13:47:47 <SarahHorton> Shawn: One goal of experimentation must be requirements
13:48:01 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Requirements must include structure and basic outline of Silver
13:48:45 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Experimentation helps us determine what structure should look like
13:49:01 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Structure and Scope
13:49:31 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Requirements document is what we're commiting to doing
13:55:05 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Interpretation phase, clarifying objectives, turn data into actionable insights
13:56:20 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Considerations and recommendations that we can use for the ideation phase
13:58:17 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Adding to objectives, looking at structure and substance of Silver
13:59:19 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Choose a subset of viable options for prototyping
14:03:08 <SarahHorton> Shawn: We can have implementation plan generally defined from start
14:03:36 <SarahHorton> Shawn: At TPAC we can have high-level implementation plan included in proposals
14:04:48 <SarahHorton> Shawn: We should look at HTML5 in the discovery phase, secondary research
14:05:58 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Method for Production and Evolution, break down milestones
14:13:40 <SarahHorton> Shawn: Let's go through matrix and rate other methods, process options
14:15:56 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Need to have grouping activity after inventory
14:20:35 <SarahHorton> Will do, thanks!
14:21:25 <SarahHorton> [Sarah and Shawn rank methods]
14:21:40 <SarahHorton> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C4Wqf-g-0X_HqbJ-4euFS_U0xEISnURnilV6TJk7FQs/edit?usp=sharing
14:23:40 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Having an editor for spec is high across the board
14:26:53 <jeanne> Jeanne: We will have to have an editor, but the options become how much time that editor can devote to the spec.  If that editor is fulltime devoted to the spec and authorized by the WG to write sections of the spec following the requirements, that has a very high codt.
14:33:52 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Faster progress approach also requires building consensus, what activities work best for building consensus?
14:36:31 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: What about having a track at a11y camps/conferences for the ideation activities?
14:38:48 <SarahHorton> Sarah: What are ways to choose options?
14:39:38 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Subgroup selects based on report in interpretation phase
14:46:33 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Quick and dirty feedback (desirability testing — positive, neutral, negative)
14:47:25 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: This method can be good for gathering feedback and making progress
14:48:10 <SarahHorton> Shawn: With choosing, need option for voting that will make for faster progress: added subgroup's choice
14:49:45 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Add "forming official taskforce" to production because then companies can assign people, would have structure of other taskforces
14:49:59 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Can ask companies to donate people as fellows
14:50:25 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Helps to get companies to give more time
14:52:59 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: Writing workshop can be good, people are face to face, people aren't distracted, meet deadlines
15:05:45 <SarahHorton> Action: Jeanne to create wiki page structure for process options
15:06:38 <SarahHorton> Shawn: At TPAC, present series of process options with rationale, have structured conversation about options, will need half day
15:07:14 <SarahHorton> Jeanne: For presenting option, explain phases, methods
15:08:04 <jeanne> present + jeanne, sarah, shawn
15:08:10 <jeanne> Meeting: Silver subgroup
15:08:16 <jeanne> chair: Shawn
15:08:56 <jeanne> s/codt/cost
15:22:56 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, make minutes
15:22:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/26-silver-minutes.html SarahHorton
15:30:48 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, bye
15:30:48 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/26-silver-actions.rdf :
15:30:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jeanne to create wiki page structure for process options [1]
15:30:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/26-silver-irc#T15-05-45