13:34:45 RRSAgent has joined #silver 13:34:45 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-irc 13:35:09 meeting: Silver Subgroup 13:35:26 scribe: Sarah 13:36:09 Shawn: Originally had last Friday to set up process, ended up doing horizontal work Friday 13:36:44 Jeanne: Some results on survey goals 13:36:58 Topic: Create first process 13:37:01 Topic: Create the first process 13:37:43 s/Topic: Create the first process// 13:37:56 rrsagent, make logs public 13:38:01 rrsagent, make minutes 13:38:01 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-minutes.html jeanne 13:38:37 scribe: jeanne 13:39:15 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1irMybNoo-yUaUlEoo4beqIkTX7MUmyBX4b2eqZNjfR8/edit?usp=sharing 13:39:50 Sarah: I got a request from Detlev Fischer for shareable links. 13:40:51 ... so this link is publicly viewable 13:41:10 Sarah: I know a lot about the Discovery phase 13:41:19 ... I split the methods into categories 13:41:46 ... I put explanation into the methods 13:42:04 ... we could do a stakeholder map, or inventory of stakeholders. 13:42:53 ... when we talk to people (including a survey) we get what they want to tell us 13:43:13 ... contextual interviews, you get their thoughts, but you also get observations 13:43:40 ... it builds in the richness of data 13:44:27 ... Secondary research is where we look at data. We can do interviews as part of that as well. 13:45:28 Shawn: We also should look at WCAG and the process component parts 13:46:56 ... the process of creating and maintaining WCAG for WCAG 1, 2, and 2.1 13:47:20 Jeanne: We should also look at ways that people have reinterpreted WCAG 13:47:45 Shawn: Why and how major players (like IBM) have done that. 13:48:00 Sarah: We have started a stakeholder map 13:48:36 ... add stakeholder of "people who create adaptations of WCAG" 13:49:31 Sarah: In the Interpretation phase, we turn data into insights and communicate those insights 13:50:40 ... how people use WCAG: Case studies (individuals); Personas (generalized data) and User Stories (put the generalized data into motion/work flow) 13:52:23 ... we have to choose key themes (we can't do everything for everyone) 13:52:49 ... group things into categories 13:53:09 ... communicate the results of the interpretation phase 13:59:12 [discussion of the idea of Design Studio-type workshop 14:00:01 Jeanne: We need an option that doesn't include a workshop 14:00:42 Sarah: OpenIDEO is a platform of challenges 14:00:57 ... we may do both 14:01:40 Jeanne: We could look at a way of forming structured discussion in the WAI-IG and WebAIM mailing lists. 14:02:20 Sarah: The Experimentation phase needs more buildout 14:04:54 Jeanne: Let's work on this now 14:05:51 Shawn: So from the workshop, we would get a "wireframe-type" approach 14:06:23 ... and in the Experimentation phase, we would turn it into a functional prototype and then do usability testing on it. 14:06:33 Sarah: I nthe end, we have to be able to choose. 14:08:58 Shawn: The speed approach would be to walk through it in the context of the personas, and project the experience. That could be done in a day. 14:11:03 ... thinking through the different levels of prototyping. Contrast the depth and speed of going through prototypes. The in-depth would be framework for Silver with structure and use cases of someone trying to find information within the structure. 14:11:56 ... the lighter weight prototype method might be more piecemeal so it is a part of a user story 14:12:15 ... rather than something that resembles a final document. 14:12:27 ... just a few key user stories 14:13:06 ... you can prototype an entire app with user testing, or you can have one dialog within the application. 14:17:06 Jeanne: We could do presentations at confereneces and get feedback 14:17:25 Sarah: We can do interviews. This is where talking with real people really matters. 14:17:42 ... we could do interviews at conferences or phone interviews 14:18:37 ... possibly showing paper prototypes where people interpret what things will do and how they will work. 14:20:34 Jeanne: We could do mockups where we could send out a survey broadly. That would be a low cost option. 14:21:50 Shawn: I am going to take this Process Options document and edit out any of the options that are not oriented toward UX research. 14:22:44 ... for the Design heavy process, it makes sense to keep the Research section. We can remove the minimal framework part for each of the methods in Experimentation 14:23:03 ... Structured focus groups, rather than Conference presentations 14:23:36 Sarah: The Process matrix' 14:23:37 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1C4Wqf-g-0X_HqbJ-4euFS_U0xEISnURnilV6TJk7FQs/edit?usp=sharing 14:24:13 ... putting that in the minutes so people can see. We need to put in the new Methods 14:24:43 ... and we need to fill this matrix out more. 14:27:00 Jeanne: We need more methods for other processes for Ideation and Experimentation phase. 14:27:26 Sarah: We need to do the survey in every method, because it is necessary to bring people along. 14:27:54 Shawn: We need to go into more detail on the survey -- from a general survey that is very general 14:28:07 ... to specific surveys for specific groups. 14:31:28 Jeanne: I think the analysis of WCAG interpretations should be a component accross all the process options. That is 8 years of people saying "WCAG doesn't work for me, I'm going to do it THIS way". 14:31:53 ... the process options could scope how detailed this analysis is. 14:33:24 Sarah: This week, we should fill out the Methods more. Use the What, WHy, How bullets to describe them. 14:33:32 ... Fill out the matrix more 14:34:08 Shawn: On Friday, we can use this to break this up into separate documents. 14:34:51 ... fill out the matrix and design methods spreadsheet, for each of the options 14:34:59 ... rank the impact of each of the methods 14:35:10 ... make a copy of the process options document 14:35:17 ... make a sketch of each one 14:35:31 ... review each sketch in the context of the entire process 14:35:47 ... does it flow from start to finish within each process 14:36:35 Shawn: This differs from the initial timeline as finalizing the list of goals, and then sequentially doing each process. 14:37:00 ... what we are doing is creating all the options at the same time and creating and refining the options in parallel. 14:39:00 We will all enter the Methods and Matrix information before Friday. 14:39:48 rrsagent, make minutes 14:39:48 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-minutes.html jeanne 14:40:22 present+ Andrew, Jeanne, Sarah, Shawn 14:41:14 s/Create the first process/Flesh out the Process Options document with methods 14:41:21 rrsagent, make minutes 14:41:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-minutes.html jeanne 14:42:11 s/Create the first process/Process Options 14:42:21 rrsagent, make minutes 14:42:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-minutes.html jeanne 14:44:02 s/Create first process/Process Options 14:44:10 rrsagent, make minutes 14:44:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/23-silver-minutes.html jeanne