15:41:47 RRSAgent has joined #auto 15:41:47 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/09-auto-irc 15:42:27 Topic: LBS 15:42:29 Present+ Ted 15:42:57 Qing: hope to have something to review at TPAC meeting 15:44:01 … plan is to have a first draft end of August 15:44:24 present+ Kaz 15:45:29 … data format for POI and LBS map results 15:46:19 … which will be the response provided for user location searches 15:48:50 Wonsuk: LBS tf said they are mostly focusing on the data format definitions 15:49:14 rrsagent, make log public 15:49:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:49:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/09-auto-minutes.html kaz 15:50:38 present+ Paul, Qing_An, Ryan, Wonsuk 15:50:43 Chair: Wonsuk 15:51:00 Qing: after the format is more stable we will work on API, expecting that to get started in October 15:51:18 Meeting: Automotive and Web Platform BG 15:51:19 Wonsuk: any questions or comments on LBS tf update report? 15:51:36 q+ 15:52:01 Qing: is it possible to make a BG report when we have our draft of LBS data formats? 15:52:09 Wonsuk: I believe so 15:52:43 … provided there is support from the group 15:53:08 Kaz: I was wondering about the coordination from GeoLocation work at W3C and this 15:53:10 q+ 15:53:38 Wonsuk: I haven't followed recently the GeoLoc work at W3C 15:54:00 … and believe GeoFencing work isn't progressing 15:54:32 Kaz: there should be some additional information in our automotive work than GeoLocation information 15:55:55 Ted: my recollection from previous TPAC session with that WG is that basically we should do our own thing 15:56:03 Paul: that was my understanding as well 15:56:28 Kaz: understood 15:56:45 q- 15:57:06 q+ 15:57:42 Wonsuk: there are certainly differences but it is worth keeping in touch with them and seeking their review 15:58:06 s/understood/right. my point is not that we need to reuse the geolocation mechanism but that we need to explain what we expect for location-based services/ 16:00:37 s/coordination from GeoLocation work at W3C and this/relationship between this LBS work and the existing W3C Geolocation work/ 16:00:47 Ted: Qing An, can you tell us more about your data structure? ideally json tree structure, if that makes sense for LBS/POI, similar to what we are doing for VSS 16:01:02 … we could potentially reuse that API 16:01:06 … @@@ 16:01:20 Qing: it is hard to make a tree structure for LBS use cases 16:01:38 … currently we define the format according to WebIDL style 16:02:08 … maybe we can discuss more how to try to get more consistent as you suggest 16:02:39 s/@@@/we will have developers using both vehicle and location APIs and would be good to be consistent/ 16:02:55 Qing: we are starting to get comments 16:03:37 q+ 16:03:40 q- 16:04:02 ack k 16:04:02 Wonsuk: can you elaborate why by you went WebIDL approach by email or raise as an issue? 16:04:24 Kaz: we should also discuss security and privacy for LBS as well 16:04:38 s/we should/when the draft is ready, we should/ 16:04:39 Qing: we may want to get more people involved for that 16:05:48 Topic: Media tuner update 16:06:18 Wonsuk: Ryan can you provide an update? 16:06:47 Ryan: I have been working with the TV Controller API WG and cross referencing with the use cases we had earlier 16:07:00 … I am looking at the Genivi media manager use cases 16:07:02 q+ 16:07:18 … I want to cross reference things over there but not sure we can 16:07:22 Paul: I think so 16:07:40 Ryan: I want to copy over what they have and do a gap analysis 16:07:57 … there are more people working on this in the Genivi side that over here 16:08:04 i|I have been|-> https://www.w3.org/2016/07/26-tvapi-minutes.html TV Control call minutes| 16:08:27 s/TV Controller/TV Control/ 16:08:30 Paul: Gerald from Bosch was working on this in Genivi and it stopped for awhile. I spoke with him in Paris and said he was ready to reengage 16:08:54 … he is the guy who was leading that and said they were going to pick it back up 16:09:10 … we should try to get a dialogue going with him, this group and Philippe Robin 16:09:39 Ryan: I am finding quite a bit of useful information over there and try to get a rough draft together 16:09:53 q- 16:10:47 … the group realizes the number of similarities between their needs and ours, unsure yet if we can align fully 16:11:10 s/the group realizes/the W3C TV Control API group realizes/ 16:11:24 Wonsuk: what are some of the top priority use cases from vehicle side? 16:11:42 … can they cover these or not? 16:12:01 … we need to find out if we can leverage their work or will need to do our own specification 16:15:27 -> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/ TPAC page 16:15:52 [discussion of TPAC and how it would be worth coordinating on media there if we can get appropriate people there] 16:16:45 Kaz: we have a room for Auto WG Monday and Tuesday 16:17:23 and Web&TV IG will have their meeting on Monday and TV Control WG will have their meeting on Tuesday 16:17:32 Wonsuk: can you identify the key automotive use cases before TPAC? 16:17:53 Ryan: I can get the work done but skeptical I can get the budget to travel. If not I can attend remotely 16:18:34 Topic: TPAC 16:20:07 Wonsuk: we should start working on agenda for BG F2F at TPAC. LBS and Media of course and wonder if there are other topics 16:20:23 … do we need to discuss SOTA at TPAC? 16:20:24 q+ 16:21:36 q+ 16:21:41 ack t 16:22:52 -> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/schedule.html TPAC schedule 16:23:10 Ted: I believe at our Paris F2F that there wasn't interest in web standards around SOTA at this point 16:24:15 Kaz: in addition to TV and GeoLoc we might want to discuss with Device API/Sensor people 16:24:37 … we might want to join the GeoLoc + Sensor meeting 16:24:48 Wonsuk: that would be good 16:25:26 Kaz: I'll check with the Device group 16:25:47 Wonsuk: should we also try to meet with WebAppSec? 16:26:53 s|Device API/Sensor people|the Device and Sensors group because they'll have joint discussion with the Geolocation guys| 16:27:58 Ted: yes, I'll talk to Sam, their Team contact, and have him look at the work from WG and see if we can get their input 16:28:17 Wonsuk: any other business? 16:28:48 [adjourned] 16:28:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/09-auto-minutes.html ted 16:29:01 rrsagent, bye 16:29:01 I see no action items