13:03:54 RRSAgent has joined #multimodal 13:03:54 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-irc 13:04:14 Meeting: MMI WG 13:04:16 scribe: Kaz 13:04:18 scribenick: kaz 13:04:30 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Aug/0001.html 13:04:54 topic: actions 13:05:00 action-447? 13:05:01 action-447 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Review updated vocabulary -- due 2016-06-27 -- OPEN 13:05:01 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/447 13:05:21 kaz: not yet... 13:05:44 ddahl: she wanted to update the draft 13:05:55 ... need to check with her 13:06:06 ... might be better to wait for the next draft 13:06:20 kaz: will skim the current one 13:06:27 ... and will review the updated one 13:06:44 ddahl: discussion during the previous call about the expected updates 13:06:46 kaz: ok 13:07:34 dirk: have problem with accessing the Tracker and the Wiki 13:07:57 ddahl: if you have your W3C account, it should work for the wiki 13:09:33 kaz: you need to login the wiki to edit it 13:09:40 ... but your account should work for it 13:11:23 ... would like to check with the Systeam 13:11:36 "/me your account" 13:14:51 ddahl: regarding Helena's document? 13:14:57 kaz: will check the prev minutes as well 13:15:02 ddahl: ok 13:15:18 topic: Use Cases 13:15:24 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized Use Cases wiki 13:17:19 dirk: sent my slides to the group list 13:17:24 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Jun/att-0007/Multimodal_Interaction_in_Cars.pdf Dirk's slides 13:18:32 kaz: sorry but failed to bring this to the Automotive group during the f2f meeting in Portland 13:21:36 ... will talk with the group co-Chairs about when to discuss UI topics 13:22:05 dirk: maybe not the whole Automotive WG but some sub group would work 13:22:08 kaz: right 13:22:16 ddahl: maybe we could form a joint TF 13:23:15 kaz: there is a possibility not the WG side but the BG side is interested 13:23:24 ... I'll talk with both the Automotive WG and the Automotive BG 13:24:01 -> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Vehicle_Information_Service_Specification Automotive Information Service discussion 13:29:02 -> https://www.w3.org/auto/wg/wiki/Vehicle_Information_Service_Specification#WebSocket_Channel_Authorization 13:36:17 kaz: they are planning to specify data point using "path" parameter based on GENIVI's VSS definition 13:38:08 ddahl: how to specify door, etc. 13:38:31 kaz: the original vehicle data spec had an idea of "zone" for that purpose 13:40:16 ... so how to specify position is one of the issues for the new interface 13:43:24 ... how to distinguish multiple sessions is another discussion point 13:43:30 ddahl: how about discovery? 13:43:38 kaz: discovery is not yet discussed 13:44:59 ... I think the basic expectation is that the IVI system is already installed and discovery is not needed 13:45:33 ... but at some point we need to think about discovery again when we want to integrate external services and additional devices 13:46:12 ddahl: we have UC-12 for Smart Car Platform 13:46:22 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform Smart Car Platform 13:49:56 ddahl: (updates the wiki) 13:55:43 ... GENIVI use Qt or HTML5 for GUI 13:56:14 ... Automotive WG develops an approach to low-level interaction in the vehicle with WebSockets 13:59:26 kaz: another question is how to detect availability of sensors and properties 13:59:59 ... it seems the current vehicle service spec draft says we'll get 503 error if the sensor is not available 14:01:31 topic: Web of Things coordination 14:01:43 kaz: Jim Barnett and I joined the WoT IG call last week 14:02:17 ... and explained what SCXML was like 14:02:42 ... people were interested in SCXML and how to use it for concrete WoT systems 14:02:59 ... Automotive use cases may be good 14:03:39 ... will continue the discussion on the list 14:03:57 ... I mentioned Dirk was working on automotive use cases and talking with him would make sense 14:04:06 topic: Use Cases revisit 14:04:20 ddahl: what about UC-18 smart remote for appliances? 14:04:44 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-18_smart_remote_for_appliances UC-18 smart remote for appliances 14:04:57 ddahl: good use case for WoT as well 14:05:13 ... might want to see Dirk's paper for the SCXML workshop 14:05:47 ... UC-7 is also related to smart appliances 14:05:59 ... and related to geolocation/geospatial too 14:06:53 ... is anybody interested in adding dependency information? 14:07:28 action: kaz to talk with the Systeam about Dirk's account for the use case wiki 14:07:28 Created ACTION-451 - Talk with the systeam about dirk's account for the use case wiki [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-08-15]. 14:08:20 kaz: btw, at some point, maybe we might want to publish this use case wiki as a group note 14:08:24 ddahl: +1 14:08:33 ... but before that we need to work more 14:08:43 [ adjourned ] 14:08:50 present: Debbie, Dirk, Kaz 14:09:13 regrets: Helena 14:09:21 rrsagent, make log public 14:09:25 rrsaent, draft minutes 14:09:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:09:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 14:09:39 s/rrsaent, draft minutes// 14:09:40 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:09:40 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 14:09:56 Chair: Debbie 14:09:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:09:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 14:11:48 s/sent my slides to the group list/sent my slides to the public list 14:11:56 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:11:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/08-multimodal-minutes.html ddahl 14:23:13 ddahl has left #multimodal 15:34:57 kaz has joined #multimodal 16:38:45 Zakim has left #multimodal