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<scribe> scribe: dape
<scribe> scribeNick: DP
<kaz> scribenick: dape
MK: asked Scott Jenson to
join
... he can join already next week (last half an hour)
DR: restarting the group was approved by W3C
MK: Any changes we have to think of?
DR: no changes
<kaz> WG charter
MK: beginning of week I
incorporated remaining issues
... no open issues on github
... should we ask for the resolution now?
DR: Can share some procedure points
<mkovatsc> http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html
DR: W3C management might require some changes (eg. relation to other groups)
<mkovatsc> "wide range of scales from microcontrollers to cloud-based server farms"
DR: will let you know if this happens
MK: Last week Frank discussed
microcontroller requirements
... charter states this already
... do we need more discussion on this?
DR: Not sure about Franks proposal
MK: Frank reported that we should put more focus on microcontroller requirements
<kaz> [ the current draft charter says "Servers can be provided at a wide range of scales from microcontrollers to cloud-based server farms." ]
MK: I think we have already a statement there which should be sufficient
DR: I agree with sticking to what we have
Kaz: Yes, it is already mentioned in the charter
MK: the technical level should not be covered in the charter
JH: writing minimum footprint in
charter is not sensible. Charter is more about goal setting...
supporting also microcontrollers
... would see this is covered in current charter
SK: Frank presented slides about
microcontroller market (8 bit microcontroller et cetera)
... he was concerned that we don't address this properly
... I think W3C standardization does not propose a technical
solutions
... there will be optimized libraries for microcontrollers
MK: Frank is not here.... do not
hear concern... looks like people are happy with charter as
is...
... microcontrollers are definitely in scope
... Do you agree that charter is ready for AC review?
All: no objections
RESOLUTION: IG believes current WG charter is ready for AC review
<kaz> Beijing minutes
MK: Last time issues with action items
Kaz: Should be fixed now
... please look at minutes which can be found at
https://www.w3.org/2016/07/13-14-wot-minutes.html
... right in the beginning you will find action itmes
Kaz goes over action items
<yingying_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-wot-ig/2016Jul/0006.html
YY: we would like to have a joint
oneM2M meeting
... we need to agree on date
... the proposed dates are: Aug 31 or Sep 7.
... suggest to have dedicated meeting
MK: Extra slot before or after normal call?
YY: We can decide... just the days were proposed
MK: for me Aug 31 would work
JH: Could setup a poll (doodle) ?
Kaz: yes, can use doodle
... can setup doodle, before and after slot
... talked to SCXML editor
... can join our call (about 10 minutes talk)
... next week?
MK: in the beginning would be ok?
SK: action of (Dave and Sebastian) to investigate on the Optimized JSON Schema no progress yet
MK: can plugin updates to proposal folder on github
SK: can share some updates within 2-3 weeks
DP: Did send email about " to
check directly with the implementers and see who have
participated in the PlugFests so far"
... got feedback: online plugfest would be good!
MK: propose to extend template by Taki to know what people would have available...
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/PlugFests_-_Template_for_PlugFest_description
Kaz: action by Taki "to generate a template of PlugFest description" is done?
MK: Yes... first draft
TK: there are 2
descriptions
... first we need collection unit description
... as part of this (picture, hardware, platform, WoT
functions, ..)
... every participant describes the "Unit Description"
part
... second we have scenario description
... think we had 3 scenarios... by linking to unit
description
... that is a first proposal for the template
MK: Thanks!
... propose to de-couple unit from scenario description
TK: Agree
MK: Do you as participant miss anything? can you fill this out?
SK: looks good to me
JH: Yes, ok
MK: picture could be also
logo
... change "Description of what the scripts does" to
application logic ... without scripting
TK: good point...
MK: I am editing the page
DP: split Unit and Scenario description... two pages?
<kaz> ACTION: sebastian to take care of the scenario description [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/27-wot-minutes.html#action01]
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MK: propose individuals provide unit description... and one builds the scenario description
SK: can take care of Scenario description
Kaz: format or style... do we use wiki?
MK: seemed convenient... might
work in future on a better visualization
... should start working on PlugFest templates soon..
<mkovatsc> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijing/TestCaseCoverage.xlsx?raw=true
MK: please fill out PlugFest Test
Case Reports soon
... send to mailing list or directly to me
... any remaining issues from Beijing?
DR: We should work on blog post
MK: DP started working on it
DR: timeline?
MK: planned for end of week
... Dave, would you be interested in supporting
DR: Yes, but will be busy next days
MK: Test wordpress draft or as fallback Google doc
<kaz> roadmap
MK: planned releases
... please have a look again..
... raise concerns/issues
<kaz> use cases and requirements
MK: assigned editors... use-cases and requirements (Johannes)
JH: last addition was month
ago..
... don't think there are any additions
... any contributor?
... propose publishing
MK: Kaz can you check with Johannes about style and such
Kaz: yes
MK: new use-cases will lead updated versions... no final document
<kaz> tech landscape
MK: next document is
tech-landscape from Soumya
... Soumya was hard to grasp recently
... anyone talked to him?
(none)
MK: Someone volunteering to finish up the document?
Kaz: will contact Soumya first
MK: Yes, will also reach out on mailing list for another editor...
<kaz> architecture
MK: architecture document is very
active.. which is very good
... have one comment.. will send in PR
<kaz> current practices
MK: current practices can be frozen..
<mkovatsc> trying to fix audio
MK: Beijing release is
frozen..
... it is a living document tough
Kaz: can publish IG notes every 3 months
MK: Okay.. will publish Beijing version and start working on Lisbon
Kaz: once draft documents are fixed, we will talk about publication again, right?
MK: will try to fix the document by next week
JH: should be able to do the same
MK: Will be a Demo room available on Wednesday?
Kaz: talked to planning
team
... wondering about size of room
... bigger rooms are already booked
MK: Mhh, nots ure
Kaz: mid-size room in Beijing?
MK: even smaller is OK..
Kaz: 20 people room?
MK: sounds good to me
Kaz: difficult to get dedicated room for demo preparation for whole week
MK: Early the day or the day before might be also ok
Kaz: let's have more internal discussions before contacting TPAC team again
MK: PlugFest: task overview of the participants?
DP: think it was about "how" to introduce the demo
MK: When do participants plan to work on Plugfest?
Naka: started to work on explanation
DP: should we have a test-run before TPAC?
MK: Yes, if possible
MK: I added "getting started" on
github
... can create "infomaterial" folder?
... who else has material?
DR: I have some and linked them from our page
DP: move everything to this folder?
DR: Page with links fine also
MK: Having a pool for figures... editable PPTs et cetera would be good instead of fixed PDFs
Kaz: shall we create wiki page for this purpose
MK: versioning might be
good
... will create "material" folder on github
... everyone is asked to support and share
<Zakim> kaz, you wanted to remind all of the TPAC registration :)
<kaz> TPAC registration site
Kaz: I would like remind you to register for TPAC
DR: Can you send email?
Kaz: will do
<yingying_> flyer creation timeline
YY: one point about flyers
... very limited time
MK: Can you send draft top mailinglist
YY: Dave wanted to review it first?
DR: Suggest share pointer now,
https://www.w3.org/Member/wiki/WoT/Flyers
YY: will send email also
MK: no real flyer yet
YY: Yes, just content for
now
... Karen's feedback and layout next
... printing and shipping is costly
DP: printing in Europe might be another choice
MK: Was there a deadline?
YY: yes, 2 weeks
MK: state chart xml intro
... Scott Jenson
DP: resolution of publishing documents could be another topic
MK: Yes