14:51:03 RRSAgent has joined #i18n 14:51:03 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-irc 14:51:06 Zakim has joined #i18n 14:51:10 trackbot, prepare teleconference 14:51:12 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:51:14 Zakim, this will be 4186 14:51:15 ok, trackbot 14:51:15 Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference 14:51:15 Date: 14 July 2016 14:51:31 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jul/0004.html 14:52:03 agenda+ Agenda 14:52:10 agenda+ Action Items 14:52:16 agenda+ Info Share 14:52:23 agenda+ Radar and Active Work Review 14:52:40 agenda+ Activitystreams comment review 14:52:55 agenda+ Time&Date definitions comments 14:53:06 agenda+ What to do about DWBP? 14:53:18 agenda+ Specdev, Encoding Spec, Charmod 14:53:31 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:53:31 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-minutes.html aphillip 14:53:37 Chair: Addison Phillips 14:53:41 Scribe: Addison Phillips 14:53:44 ScribeNick: aphillip 14:53:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-minutes.html aphillip 14:54:01 Regrets+ Felix 14:54:04 Regrets+ JcK 14:58:11 Steve_Atkin has joined #i18n 14:59:17 David has joined #I18n 14:59:21 Present+ Addison 14:59:27 Present+ Steven 15:03:01 Present+ Richard 15:03:07 Present+ David 15:03:17 zakim, take up agendum 1 15:03:17 agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from aphillip] 15:03:21 agenda? 15:03:52 zakim, take up agendum 2 15:03:52 agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from aphillip] 15:06:15 action-536? 15:06:15 action-536 -- Richard Ishida to Publish predefined-counter-styles as a wg note -- due 2016-06-30 -- OPEN 15:06:15 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/536 15:06:26 new comments on it, may need a fresh "wide review" 15:06:55 action-537? 15:06:55 action-537 -- Addison Phillips to File bugs against failing browsers, referring back to the encoding issue list, and update the encoding issues -- due 2016-06-30 -- OPEN 15:06:55 http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/537 15:07:09 done FF and Chrome, safari and edge to go 15:11:37 richard: asked about href one 15:12:16 zakim, take up agendum 3 15:12:16 agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from aphillip] 15:12:23 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-minutes.html aphillip 15:12:43 https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/07/13/w3c-html5-validator-enhanced-with-language-detection-functionality/ 15:12:56 richard: announcement I made yesterday 15:13:33 ... html validator detects language and complains if different from html @lang 15:13:39 ... done by mike smith 15:13:47 ... if an rtl language, look for @dir 15:14:56 najib has joined #i18n 15:15:22 https://validator.w3.org/i18n-checker/ 15:15:24 richard: source code for i18n checker is on its home page 15:15:30 https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/i18n-checker/ 15:15:30 ... download link 15:17:40 agenda? 15:17:46 zakim, take up agendum 4 15:17:46 agendum 4. "Radar and Active Work Review" taken up [from aphillip] 15:17:54 http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/ 15:19:08 http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/ 15:19:37 richard: request to set up hebrew layout tf 15:19:41 ... will get to it 15:21:28 agenda? 15:21:53 richard: going to full day egyptologist meeting 15:22:49 zakim, take up agendum 6 15:22:49 agendum 6. "Time&Date definitions comments" taken up [from aphillip] 15:23:01 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/issues/57 15:28:44 agenda? 15:28:50 zakim, take up agendum 7 15:28:50 agendum 7. "What to do about DWBP?" taken up [from aphillip] 15:29:11 https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/WD-dwbp-20160519/ 15:29:18 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jul/0009.html 15:29:27 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Jul/0010.html 15:30:21 richard: dwbp doc will have a CR transition meeting on monday 15:30:27 ... kind of a surprise 15:31:23 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0010.html 15:31:48 http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/publishing-snapshots/CR-dwbp-20160706/#LocaleParametersMetadata 15:32:19 we've known about doc for a while 15:32:25 felix raised an unsent comment 15:32:48 when asked to review this we were buried 15:33:26 inclination to grumble a little 15:34:24 addison: fully agree 15:34:47 richard: copy plh and ralph on that 15:34:58 ... nothing from chair or editors 15:35:04 ... request was kind of off the record 15:35:23 ... copy the 4 chairs 15:35:49 Chairs: Hadley Beeman (Invited Expert), Deirdre Lee (Insight Ireland), Yasodara Córdova (NIC.br/W3C Brasil), Steven Adler (IBM) 15:36:28 action: addison: write an email objecting to lack of I18N review and review coordination and pointing out that there are issues that should be addressed 15:36:28 Created ACTION-539 - Write an email objecting to lack of i18n review and review coordination and pointing out that there are issues that should be addressed [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-07-21]. 15:36:35 david: adding the I18N later doesn't work 15:37:03 addison: own up to fact we knew about document 15:38:07 ... process failure, not an attack 15:38:20 ... spec may not be "best practices" at the end of the day 15:38:43 richard: could forward felix's comment 15:39:08 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/19 15:39:12 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/19 15:40:21 richard: not just multiple languages, need to provde info about language even if just a single language 15:40:58 addison: not entirely happy with that formulation? 15:41:59 action: addison: forward dwbp issue reformulation to richard this afternoon (14 Jul) 15:42:00 Created ACTION-540 - Forward dwbp issue reformulation to richard this afternoon (14 jul) [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-07-21]. 15:42:15 agenda? 15:42:38 richard: take a resolution that people should push their comments through rather than hoping they will get done 15:43:03 addison: review pendings each week as part of radar? 15:45:15 http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ 15:46:43 agenda? 15:46:53 zakim, take up agendum 5 15:46:53 agendum 5. "Activitystreams comment review" taken up [from aphillip] 15:47:11 http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ 15:47:29 https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/184 15:47:49 https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues/341 15:47:52 https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues/335 15:51:14 name: "string" 15:51:38 richard: 1. figure out what tod about json-ld 15:51:46 ... 2. what to about activity stream 15:54:11 set @language in context, any items that vary in language SHOULD use a map 15:57:06 other issue is bidi, current proposed solution is to hack with markup or use controls 15:57:40 don't think there is @direction in @context 15:57:47 https://github.com/w3c/activitystreams/issues/336 15:59:18 richard to close green items, others to reopen if necessary 15:59:24 Topic: AOB? 16:00:04 rrsagent, make minutes 16:00:04 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-minutes.html aphillip 16:00:07 zakim, bye 16:00:07 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Steven, Richard, David 16:00:07 Zakim has left #i18n 16:00:14 rrsagent, make minutes 16:00:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-minutes.html aphillip 16:00:31 rrsagent, bye 16:00:31 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-actions.rdf : 16:00:31 ACTION: addison: write an email objecting to lack of I18N review and review coordination and pointing out that there are issues that should be addressed [1] 16:00:31 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-irc#T15-36-28 16:00:31 ACTION: addison: forward dwbp issue reformulation to richard this afternoon (14 Jul) [2] 16:00:31 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-i18n-irc#T15-41-59