13:56:34 RRSAgent has joined #dap 13:56:34 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-irc 13:56:36 RRSAgent, make logs world 13:56:36 Zakim has joined #dap 13:56:38 Zakim, this will be DAP 13:56:38 ok, trackbot 13:56:39 Meeting: Device and Sensors Working Group Teleconference 13:56:39 Date: 14 July 2016 13:56:46 Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jul/0031.html 13:57:15 Chair: Frederick_Hirsch 13:57:31 Present+ Frederick_Hirsch 13:57:46 fjh has changed the topic to: das agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/att-0046/minutes-2016-06-16.html 14:00:25 Present +Andrey_Logvinov 14:03:06 anssik has joined #dap 14:03:31 I am 14:03:40 ScribeNick: fjh 14:03:50 Topic: Welcome, scribe selection, agenda review, announcements 14:04:35 fjh has changed the topic to: das agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jul/0031.html 14:04:47 Canceled calls on 28 July, 11 August. Dom to chair call on 28 August. 14:05:03 Topic: Minutes approval 14:05:21 Approve minutes from 14 June 2016 14:05:21 proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 14 June 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0046.html 14:05:22 Approve notes from 30 June 2016 14:05:23 proposed RESOLUTION: Notes from 30 June 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0071.html 14:05:35 RESOLUTION: Minutes from 14 June 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0046.html 14:05:40 RESOLUTION: Notes from 30 June 2016 are approved, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0071.html 14:05:48 Topic: Battery 14:06:07 Test report updated (per ACTION-762), now awaiting next steps from Director decision 14:06:08 fjh: still waiting, correct? 14:06:10 anssik: yes 14:06:18 Topic: Vibration PER 14:06:26 PER transition request submitted 14:06:40 s/PER/fjh: PER/ 14:06:53 approve Errata for Vibration REC via CfC? - 14:06:54 1. WebIDL reference updated to WebIDL-1 14:06:55 2. Page Visibility reference updated to Page Visibility 2 14:07:21 fjh: I think we need an errata for these two items for the existing rec 14:07:24 fjh: do you agree? 14:08:07 fjh: if we get the PER out then it will be the latest so this probably not needed, so lets not do this if the PER comes out 14:08:19 fjh: will talk with Dom 14:08:36 Topic: Sensor 14:08:47 fjh: question from last meeting 14:08:53 fjh: Start wide review by horizontal groups or wait till more feedback gets integrated? (hoping to hear from Anssi) 14:10:38 fjh: my sense is we should wait 14:11:03 anssik: asked Intel people to give feedback but not sure all has been given since summer 14:11:12 anssik: most recent opened issue is informative 14:11:31 ... cannot say we have given all the feedback yet, so do wide review later 14:11:38 fjh: that is my sense as well 14:11:47 ... we will do wide review later 14:11:56 Topic: Proximity 14:12:04 New generic sensor-based draft of proximity, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0052.html 14:12:11 Call for consensus to publish WD, https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0073.html 14:12:12 Completed successfully 14:12:25 fjh: next step to publish a WD 14:12:56 https://rawgit.com/w3c/proximity/wd/releases/WD-proximity-20160714.html 14:13:01 anssik: using bikeshed tool so cannot do automatic publishing 14:13:32 fjh: I will make publication request for next Tuesday 14:13:57 anssik: I've checked it for errors already 14:16:06 https://rawgit.com/w3c/proximity/wd/releases/WD-proximity-20160719.html 14:17:00 fjh: have you seen fingerprinting issue; I have concern that if we remove everything related to fingerprinting there might not be much utility left 14:17:12 anssik: yes, always a tradeoff for sensors 14:17:52 fjh: I think this one should have more list/issue discussion 14:18:18 FTR: WD snapshots passe the current Pubrules checker (not the new one) for the relevant parts. Complains about Copyright Information section because the Pubrules does not recognise the permissive document license. 14:18:28 s/passe/pass 14:18:38 Topic: WakeLock API 14:18:47 fjh: Wide review has been started 14:18:58 ... see chairs list 14:19:07 fjh: PING meeting scheduled, 28 July 2016 at UTC 16 14:19:21 ... I won't be able to attend that call, Andrey will attend 14:19:27 Andrey_Logvinov: i will attend 14:19:44 fjh: is there more to discuss on this now? 14:20:19 Topic: TPAC 14:20:44 fjh: I won't be able to attend TPAC, but Tobie, Anssi, Dom and others should be there 14:21:41 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/0043.html 14:21:54 Topic: Other Business 14:21:58 none 14:22:06 Topic: Adjourn 14:24:47 Wake Lock API request for wide review (members only chairs list) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0015.html 14:25:05 Vibration API PER transition request (members only chairs list) https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/chairs/2016JulSep/0017.html 14:25:10 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:25:10 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-minutes.html fjh 14:38:36 s/FTR/For the Record/ 14:38:45 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:38:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-minutes.html fjh 14:39:16 Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen 14:39:28 Thank you Anssi and Andrey 14:39:34 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:39:34 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-minutes.html fjh 14:40:19 16 June minutes link https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2016Jun/att-0046/minutes-2016-06-16.html 14:41:08 Regrets+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux, Tobie_Langel 14:41:12 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:41:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-minutes.html fjh 14:42:02 s/28 August/25 August/ 14:42:07 rrrsagent, generate minutes 14:42:18 s/rrrsagent, generate minutes// 14:42:22 rrsagent, generate minutes 14:42:22 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/14-dap-minutes.html fjh 15:29:11 fjh has joined #dap 15:48:17 fjh has joined #dap 16:58:30 Zakim has left #dap