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13:53:27 <trackbot> Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
13:53:27 <trackbot> Date: 23 June 2016
13:53:36 <gadams> chair glenn
13:53:51 <gadams> trackbot, glenn is chair
13:53:51 <trackbot> Sorry, gadams, I don't understand 'trackbot, glenn is chair'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
13:54:26 <gadams> trackbot, chair is glenn
13:54:26 <trackbot> Sorry, gadams, I don't understand 'trackbot, chair is glenn'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
13:55:38 <gadams> Chair: glenn
13:55:47 <gadams> Chair: gadams
13:57:08 <gadams> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Jun/0019.html
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14:02:15 <gadams> Present: Glenn Adams
14:02:21 <gadams> Present: Thierry Michel
14:02:25 <gadams> Present: Mike Dolan
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14:06:02 <gadams> andreas are you joining webex today?
14:06:28 <gadams> https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/agenda
14:06:55 <gadams> action-268?
14:06:55 <trackbot> action-268 -- Nigel Megitt to Estimate timelines for ttml 2 deliberables with glenn -- due 2014-02-27 -- CLOSED
14:06:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/268
14:07:40 <gadams> close action-268
14:07:40 <trackbot> Closed action-268.
14:08:38 <gadams> close action-469
14:08:38 <trackbot> Closed action-469.
14:08:57 <gadams> action-471?
14:08:57 <trackbot> action-471 -- Thierry Michel to Update ttwg home page to point to new charter -- due 2016-06-16 -- OPEN
14:08:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/471
14:09:04 <gadams> done
14:09:08 <gadams> close action-471
14:09:08 <trackbot> Closed action-471.
14:09:41 <gadams> action-441?
14:09:41 <trackbot> action-441 -- Andreas Tai to Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea. -- due 2015-11-05 -- OPEN
14:09:41 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441
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14:10:32 <gadams> atai: not yet complete on action-441
14:11:11 <gadams> issue-224?
14:11:11 <trackbot> issue-224 -- Support text placement in 3D coordinate spaces (not zIndex compositing). -- pending review
14:11:11 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/224
14:12:02 <gadams> gadams: moved to issue 40 on github
14:12:38 <gadams> gadams: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/40
14:12:55 <gadams> gadams: wait for nigel
14:13:48 <gadams> issue-322?
14:13:48 <trackbot> issue-322 -- Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect. -- pending review
14:13:48 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/issues/322
14:14:02 <gadams> gadams: wait for nigel to verify close
14:14:43 <gadams> Topic: IMSC
14:15:02 <gadams> pal: nothing new yet to report
14:16:02 <gadams> Topic: TTML
14:16:17 <gadams> gadams: expect to make new progress on TTML2 EDs andd Issues
14:17:09 <gadams> gadams: will be creating github issues for Editorial Notes that don't have issues
14:17:23 <gadams> Topic: Profiles Registry
14:17:39 <gadams> mike: 2 activities
14:17:56 <gadams> ... W3C staff has been interacting with IANA folks
14:18:10 <gadams> ... getting comments unrelated to changes
14:18:19 <gadams> ... one having to do with clipboard identifiers
14:18:28 <gadams> ... the other is a missing URL from text
14:18:54 <gadams> ... useful comment about decoder behavior
14:19:13 <gadams> ... a few PRs to look at and commit
14:20:23 <gadams> gadams: thinks clipboard IDs aren't necessary
14:20:35 <gadams> mike: if someone is using, then let folks know
14:21:13 <gadams> ... if no input, then will follow up with no action taken results
14:21:44 <gadams> glenn: no other comments now
14:21:59 <gadams> ... process will continue with IANA review and feedback
14:22:09 <gadams> Topic: VTT Mapping
14:23:16 <atai1> I lost audio connection
14:24:19 <gadams> atai1: nothing to report at this time
14:25:37 <gadams> glenn: notes some activity on VTT spec from Simon, being driven by Firefox implementation
14:26:14 <gadams> atai1: FF doesn't yet support CSS styling of VTT
14:26:52 <gadams> pal: WWDC Apple announced support for VTT in AppleTV at some point, also not supporting CSS
14:27:08 <pal> http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/download.action?path=/wwdc_2012/wwdc_2012_session_pdfs/session_512__whats_new_in_http_live_streaming.pdf
14:27:55 <gadams> atai1: notes that without CSS support, it will be very difficult to have mapping from TTML and VTT
14:28:47 <gadams> tmichel: notes recent editorial actions on VTT (by Simon)
14:29:29 <gadams> ... however, there doesn't seem to have been an actions w.r.t. feedback on review of VTT WD
14:29:49 <gadams> ... i.e., need to process feedback to be able to move forward to CR
14:30:01 <gadams> ... review is done, but disposition of comments has not been done
14:30:51 <gadams> ... dsinger has (old) outstanding action item 396
14:30:56 <gadams> action-396?
14:30:56 <trackbot> action-396 -- David Singer to Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive -- due 2015-04-17 -- OPEN
14:30:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396
14:31:41 <gadams> tmichel: need to discuss how to move forward on VTT in general within TTWG
14:32:08 <gadams> atai1: there has been little or no input from community group
14:32:53 <gadams> atai1: wonders about what is happening in CG
14:33:29 <gadams> tmichel: to go to CR, need to follow through on process
14:33:39 <gadams> ... possibly a subset
14:34:17 <gadams> pal: has W3M raised with co-chairs?
14:34:34 <atai1> replace - "atai1: there has been little or no traffic on the  community group reflector"
14:34:45 <gadams> tmichel: possibly need to move issues on VTT to github
14:35:57 <gadams> atai1: note that community group may be more than CG reflector, e.g., github
14:37:13 <gadams> atai1: tests on the mapping is dealing with 3 specs: old, un-updated VTT spec, used by most implementations, then what is in browsers, then what is newly added to spec
14:37:37 <gadams> ... very difficult to determine what can be used as reference for mapping
14:38:20 <gadams> tmichel: possibly publish a subset
14:41:55 <gadams> gadams: need leadership from co-chairs and W3M contacts on how to move forward on VTT
14:42:19 <gadams> s/leadership/guidance/
14:42:59 <gadams> action tmichel to contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on VTT; need an action plan
14:43:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-473 - Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt; need an action plan [on Thierry Michel - due 2016-06-30].
14:43:27 <gadams> Topic: HTMLCue
14:43:33 <gadams> atai1: nothing to report at this time
14:44:38 <gadams> gadams: no other agenda items
14:47:01 <gadams> rrsagent, publish minutes
14:47:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/23-tt-minutes.html gadams
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14:47:16 <gadams> trackbot, close meeting
14:47:16 <trackbot> Sorry, gadams, I don't understand 'trackbot, close meeting'. Please refer to <http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc> for help.
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