13:00:19 RRSAgent has joined #multimodal 13:00:19 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/06/20-multimodal-irc 13:01:10 rrsagent, make log member 13:01:16 rrsagent, draft minutes 13:01:16 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 13:02:16 ddahl has joined #multimodal 13:03:35 Meeting: MMI 13:03:45 present+ Debbie, Helena, Kaz 13:03:49 scribe: Kaz 13:03:52 scribenick: kaz 13:04:03 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Jun/0006.html 13:04:09 regrets: Dirk 13:04:56 kaz: SCXML workshop is listed: https://www.w3.org/ 13:05:11 topic: actions 13:05:27 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open actions 13:05:39 action-441? 13:05:39 action-441 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Submit bullet points on mmi to the wot landscape document on github -- due 2016-06-13 -- OPEN 13:05:39 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/441 13:05:58 kaz: submitted the text to GitHub 13:06:09 ... and am waiting for the approval of my pull request 13:06:29 close action-441 13:06:29 Closed action-441. 13:06:53 topic: use cases 13:07:04 ddahl: Dirk is not here today 13:07:26 ... put a couple of comments for the automotive use case 13:07:55 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized Use Case wiki 13:08:27 ddahl: comments on UC-12 Smart Car Platform 13:08:33 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-12:_Smart_Car_Platform smart car platform 13:08:56 ddahl: added comments to the "Description" section 13:09:53 ... Dirk said he would add some more text to this Use Case 13:11:14 ... any news on the automotive work? 13:11:35 kaz: the Automotive WG is discussing two portions 13:11:44 ... JS API and network interface 13:13:17 ddahl: online/offline processing? 13:13:27 kaz: related to location information 13:13:39 ... probably need smarter mechanism than the gelocation api 13:17:01 ... automotive wg has restarted their LBS (location-based service) work 13:17:14 ... think we need to have some datamodel to handle location information 13:17:27 ddahl: what about the work of the geospatial group? 13:17:30 kaz: not sure 13:17:40 ... maybe good timing to see their work again 13:17:44 ddahl: ok 13:17:55 helena has joined #multimodal 13:17:58 ... Helena, do you have any comment on the Use Case 19? 13:18:16 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#UC-19_Handling_millions_of_components Use Case 19 13:18:51 ddahl: anything to be updated? 13:19:09 helena: the idea of complex model 13:19:58 ... a MC has an IM itself 13:20:11 ... remote orchestration work 13:20:20 ... independent of controller 13:20:37 ddahl: more like a requirement? 13:20:48 helena: think this is a requirement 13:21:28 ... also multiple IMs for one application 13:21:39 ... how to handle that? 13:21:52 ... how they communicate with each other? 13:22:16 ... similarity of clusters 13:22:41 ddahl: do you think we need to have some new mechanism? 13:22:53 helena: a way to handle a cluster 13:23:10 ... with a high-level IM 13:23:34 kaz: would like to agree 13:23:41 ... similar to the WoT Servient model 13:24:27 ... like ants and the queen ant 13:24:52 helena: maybe each MC doesn't have global view and just concentrate on their own task 13:25:25 ... and like the orchestration use case, they might have a high-level manager 13:26:53 kaz: maybe we could create a guideline Note on how to use the MMI Architecture for this kind of use cases 13:27:42 ddahl: we could publish a Note on detailed description on each use case 13:28:08 ... architectural examples for the MMI Architecture implementations 13:28:13 kaz: right 13:28:27 ddahl: had a smart hotel room use case 13:28:40 ... and a smart car example 13:28:48 ... and this millions of MC example 13:29:02 ... we might want to pick up another one 13:29:42 ... any use cases from the WoT viewpoint, Kaz? 13:29:53 kaz: smart home and smart factory, etc. 13:30:08 ddahl: have accessibility use cases too 13:30:43 kaz: might want to categorize the use cases from that viewpoint? 13:31:30 ddahl: the use cases are not high-level enough 13:32:50 s/not high-level enough/too high level 13:33:31 kaz: think it might be useful to add "viewpoint", e.g., industry, accessibility, to the use case description 13:34:17 helena: can add some analysis to the use case 13:34:26 ddahl: perfect 13:34:44 ... also we can ask the group for specific use cases 13:35:10 s/analysis/analysis from TPAC 2015/ 13:35:37 s/"viewpoint"/specific "viewpoint"/ 13:36:52 action: helena to write up the use case of millions of images from TPAC and send to the group list 13:36:53 Created ACTION-443 - Write up the use case of millions of images from tpac and send to the group list [on B Helena RODRIGUEZ - due 2016-06-27]. 13:38:12 ddahl: we already have description, motivation, dependencies, etc., for the use case template 13:38:18 ... and we could add "viewpoint" too 13:38:56 kaz: yes 13:39:13 ... for example, industry requirements, accessibility 13:39:39 ddahl: maybe "specific industry" like home use/everyday use 13:40:18 ... factory, hospitality, etc. 13:40:54 kaz: yeah 13:41:29 ... and motivation or merits could be also described from several viewpoints, e.g., customer's viewpoint and provider's viewpoint 13:41:30 ddahl: ok 13:41:35 (updated the template on the wiki) 13:42:08 -> https://www.w3.org/wiki/MMI/Use_Cases_Categorized#Template_for_Use_Cases use case template 13:42:31 helena: would you characterize your use case by online shopping? 13:42:43 s/helena:/ddahl: Helena, / 13:42:46 helena: retail 13:43:15 ddahl: adding retail and automotive too 13:43:35 ... would be a good idea to publish specific examples 13:44:16 ... the other thing is vocabulary 13:44:31 topic: discovery and registration 13:45:00 ddahl: have you been working on that? 13:45:34 helena: we decided some new names 13:45:41 ... not in the minutes 13:45:49 http://w3c.github.io/mmi-discovery/vocabulary.html 13:46:05 ddahl: put the link above 13:46:34 ... are you still waiting? 13:46:53 ... anything to do before publication? 13:47:39 ... good to have the description on what the video controller would do 13:47:59 helena: not sure if the video controller use case would be the best 13:48:29 ddahl: do you want to redo the description with other use cases like the millions MC? 13:48:53 helena: ok 13:49:20 ddahl: we might want to integrate state management and vocabulary 13:49:40 ... but good to have this description first 13:49:48 ... is this GitHub version the latest one? 13:49:56 helena: no, will update it 13:50:07 ddahl: ok, I'll give feedback to the new one 13:50:39 ... helena should redo the description on the vocabulary document 13:51:03 action: helena to revise the vocabulary document with a new description 13:51:04 Created ACTION-444 - Revise the vocabulary document with a new description [on B Helena RODRIGUEZ - due 2016-06-27]. 13:51:20 action: helena to update vocabulary document in Github 13:51:21 Created ACTION-445 - Update vocabulary document in github [on B Helena RODRIGUEZ - due 2016-06-27]. 13:51:35 action: debbie to review updated vocabulary document 13:51:35 Created ACTION-446 - Review updated vocabulary document [on Deborah Dahl - due 2016-06-27]. 13:51:55 action: kaz to review updated vocabulary 13:51:55 Created ACTION-447 - Review updated vocabulary [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-06-27]. 13:53:04 action: debbie to check on status of APA review of state management 13:53:04 Created ACTION-448 - Check on status of apa review of state management [on Deborah Dahl - due 2016-06-27]. 13:53:27 topic: WoT 13:53:28 ddahl: any update? 13:54:38 kaz: working on the updated IG charter 13:54:41 ... sent to the AC 13:54:51 ... now working on 4 documents 13:55:16 ... Use Case/Requirements, Architecture, Tech Landscape, Current Practices 13:55:32 ... people are interested in Architecture and Current Practices 13:55:49 helena has left #multimodal 13:56:13 -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/architecture/wot-architecture.html WoT Architecture 13:56:29 -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices.html Current Practices 14:00:58 [ adjourned ] 14:03:16 rrsagent, make log public 14:03:27 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:03:27 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 14:03:56 Chair: Debbie 14:03:57 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:03:57 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/06/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 14:06:05 rrsagent, stop