W3C

Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

16 Jun 2016

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Steven, Addison, Richard, JcK
Regrets
Najib, Felix
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
Addison Phillips

Contents


Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-504?

<trackbot> action-504 -- Addison Phillips to Forward remaining action 502 issues and ping dennis, leandro, and leslie about theirs -- due 2016-04-07 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/504

forwarded mine, did not ping the others

action-514?

<trackbot> action-514 -- Richard Ishida to Publish ruby markup article after pinging fantasai and koji -- due 2016-05-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/514

close action-514

<trackbot> Closed action-514.

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/blog/International/2016/06/13/new-article-ruby-markup/

action-516?

<trackbot> action-516 -- Addison Phillips to Triage wontfixed bugzilla items in case any action is needed? -- due 2016-05-12 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/516

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2016AprJun/0078.html

close action-516

<trackbot> Closed action-516.

Info Share

richard: added a new status label to tracker
... called "deferred"
... will make it appear in our list
... idea is that, for example, <q> was put off to 5.2
... dont' want to close but don't want to keep reviewing it

steven: updating instructions?

richard: yes, doing anyway
... started using our issues list
... reviewed in our lists
... copy the info into their github issues list
... and put a link back to the original
... but we've started now removing the initial comment
... certain circumstances were we've discussed before it goes to the other group

steven: keep discussiong but remove initial comment?

richard: yes
... news about FindText
... asked Ivan about status
... work postponed for a period
... so don't worry about it

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/

addison: if they published as note, ask for big red box on it?

richard: please register for TPAC as soon as possible

zakimn, take up agendum 4

RADAR and Active Work Review

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/

<Steve_Atkin> https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/485

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/uievents/#events-keyboardevents

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/1002-dom3-events/

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0806-xhtml-access/

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: publication of ruby markup article
... make more visible where implementation is needed
... increase implementaiton adoption
... start writing bugs against implementations

addison: have tests, right?

richard: we do

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/ruby-html

Specdev

http://w3c.github.io/bp-i18n-specdev

https://github.com/w3c/bp-i18n-specdev/issues

steven: do we think they'll understand code points and code units and understand those things?

richard: "more" sections are supposed to explain
... but in some cases like this might be a little bare
... for the sake of speed, just copied recommendations direct form charmod

steven: logical vs. visual order
... is that applicable to non-unicode encodings

richard: guidance to spec writers
... don't want new specs in visual order

steven: my concern is some of our legacy encoding heritage
... okay with that
... base direction and assuming dir from lang
... 7 and 8?
... should not require content author to use control characters to get direction they want, right?

richard: could be a script or whatever, not just content author

steven: can indicate as metadata, not use controls to get effect wanted
... want to change to be explicit "do not use lang to get dir"

richard: may be certain situations, if not information is available, as a fallback
... doesn't always hold
... kind of left it

steven: last thing was #5
... default text processing language
... for resource as a whole *and* any inheritance models

richard: inheritance should be the case at resource and block level
... had it there so spec authors would see it in context
... will have another look

steven: rest are commented on

(Steven exuent)

<r12a> http://r12a.github.io/apps/conversion/

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/charmod/#C042

\u{1234}

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Publish an update to Encoding CR

richard: would like to take a decision on publishing an update when we know what that involves

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/docs/encoding/encoding-cr-doc2

richard: first step is to publish an updated CR
... some subsntative made, but mostly settling

move to publish a new CR of Encoding

+1

<r12a> +1

<JcK> +1 (with qualification for list objections)

<scribe> ACTION:addison: call for objections to publishing Encoding updated CR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

AOB?

richard: want to be more proactive about closing issues in our lists
... marked our web-annotations ones
... ask www-international and then close if no objections

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/close%3F

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/

do by spec

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: call for objections to publishing Encoding updated CR [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/06/16-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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